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[flagged] Google runs Israel's ads: 'There is food in Gaza' (washingtonpost.com)
57 points by cramsession 23 days ago | hide | past | favorite | 32 comments


I'm not convinced that such a direct message does anything. Wouldn't be more effective to run Gaza restaurant ads, implying that there's food everything is fine but even Gazan don't help each other, so why you should care?

I'm saying this because my observation with all that propaganda going on in social media since many years is that they are not this direct, instead they imply stuff and work to create certain framing.


Hamas people do not look starved. Other videos. over the last several days, do not show people looking starved Gaza people said to be returning to Gaza do not looked starved?

Have been several media articles about supposedly starved children and later its found they have some other condition

Also saw an article about how Hamas used the arm band method... the article claimed was a non standard method and had been shown to be not as reliable as other starvation methods. Maybe there is pockets of stavevation?


Is anyone surprised when YouTube shows a million "you won't believe this one simple trick involving lemon juice to reverse diabetes" type ads?

I'd be shocked if now was the time to have standards of any sort.


Flagged, of course. I guess the WaPo is an unreliable source, right?


I used to send inquiries to Google about their policies on political ads. This is partly because, in 2024, they said they were implementing "pauses" on certain types of political content:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/05/tech/social-media-election-ad...

I discovered two things. First, Google doesn't care about being consistent, hypocritical, or, really, anything. Second, Israel creates new ad accounts with Google, runs campaigns, then shuts them down. Here's one advertiser ID which I saved in my bookmarks:

https://adstransparency.google.com/advertiser/AR122591225072...


I imagine newspapers and magazines would run those ads as well, if anybody cared to pay them money to.


I mean if the standard is the current crop of political ads that are run every two years then, yeah, this makes sense. We've largely accepted that ads are allowed to lie as long as they aren't wholesale made up which encompasses all but a measure zero set of lies people actually tell. And while I wish for a better world I certainly don't have any answers for who or how to weigh truth in this manner.

I think a low hanging reform would be requiring ads to have attribution of the real life human persons actually responsible for and paid for the ad instead of the usual "The Center for Good Things Against Bad Things." Expose that it really all terminates at a group of rich assholes small enough to fit on one plane ride to Epstein's island.


It's sad that Big Tech is guilty of censorship so often that it's now considered newsworthy when they don't censor things.



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Logistics breakdown is a good way to put it. There is enough food entering to prevent starvation, but a combination of 1. Gaza being a war zone 2. Looting by Hamas and Tribe-related gangs 3. Insufficient distribution stations and 4. Pressure by Bibi's far-right coalition partners to limit food entry has combined to cause some level of starvation. From what I've seen so far, its not homogeneously distributed across the strip, but rather concentrated in areas that are isolated and cut off from regular supply routes, like Gaza City was in the North.


you're missing the simplest answer. the IDF logged aid that they never sent.


IDF doesn't distribute aid. Other agencies are responsible for that.


But the IDF does reserve the capacity to censor GHF's aid reports if they could be used to defame them: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Military_Censor

Famously a sticking point with discussions the IDF never wanted to reach the broader news cycle, eg. Vanunu et. al.


Some of it could also have been hoarded by the factions of Israel-aligned militias that have been getting mopped up by Hamas since the ceasefire.


Disinformation for me, not for thee.


Wait, wait do you mean to tell me Israel is lying about Gaza?! I'm shocked just...shocked. sigh


One weird trick to never see video ads again: https://www.youtube.com/premium


One weird trick to never see video ads again: https://ublockorigin.com/


My way doesn't require giving root access to your life to the unreviewed code of a bunch of cranks.


Odd, uBlock Origin doesn't need that, either.


yeah, it just give money to the other bunch of cranks who written unreviewed code to spy on you and everyone else, including the people who are being genocided.


Don't you dare slander the good name of gorhill.


Skill issue


> Lawrence Edward Page was born on March 26, 1973,[19] in Lansing, Michigan.[20][21] His mother is Jewish;[22] his maternal grandfather later immigrated to Israel,[

and

> Sergey Mikhailovich Brin was born on August 21, 1973, in Moscow in the Soviet Union,[8] to Russian Jewish parents,

As simple as that.


It really isn't, because there are plenty of jews (or people with jewish background) that oppose israel's actions, but nobody points that out as some sort of massive contradiction. Therefore this sort of logic only works one way: if someone supports israel and are jewish it's obviously because their background, but if it's the reverse you get a meh.


Do you know of any Jews in the tech industry that don’t support Israel? I haven’t seen that (although would love to!).


> It really isn't, because there are plenty of jews (or people with jewish background) that oppose israel's actions, but nobody points that out as some sort of massive contradiction.

Pro-Israel voices try to cite that as a massive contradiction, label such Jews as "self-hating", etc.

(I am not endorsing the initial comment in this thread)


Antisemitism on HN of all places?


Regardless of what's going on with these two, if they consiously allowed this to pass, they are evil people. It doesn't matter if it's due to greed or tribalism or both.


It's been rising steadily for years, it's just usually presented as being something other than antisemitism, with a whole lot of clueless enthusiasts who don't understand the team they've decided to back. It's so bizarre to see the actual, unironic embrace of nazism and Hitler by significant figures in the causes the American left so passionately embraces.

I'm half convinced there's some 4chan troll billionaire trying to pull off the most outrageous cognitive dissonance of all time.


Just copy-pasting from their pages on wikipedia, noticing stuff, as it happens.

More from the noticing department, here's Brin kissing Trump's posterior a month or so ago [1], which shows that no matter who the CEO might be Brin (and I guess Page, too) still call the shots at Alphabet.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZUDgEaAjmY&t=46s


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Try paying for pro-Gaza ads, see how it goes. As for the Hasbara-level propaganda at the end, won’t say anything.




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