As a Intellij-user I am more than a little confused. What are features missing from Java's debugging story?

I have mostly heard these complaints from people who haven't used a java ide and/or do not know that jvms allow waiting for a debugger before starting execution (helps with all sorts of spring or whatever errors and boilerplate).

That said, there is a shitload of "enterprise" fuckery in Java, but those Devs would have made a mess of any codebase anyway.

Yeah this comment is wild to me. Java’s debugging is so good I can debug a remote server from my local machine.

Something I've had to do a handful of times against production systems when we absolutely couldn't reproduce an issue locally. Such a great debug ecosystem.

How much experience do you have working in Java? This statement really surprises me because Java has some of the best in class tools to debug and troubleshoot issues.

This has to be one of the wrongest opinions I've ever seen on HN. It's mind-bendingly wrong. Java would, IMO, be the easiest programming language in the world to debug. The debugging tools are mature, consistent and extensive.

This is really a wild take. Java's debugging support is one of the best out there.

I hate to say it, but this is because you are not a Java developer. It’s very easy to debug.

Found out another printf debugger.