Are you just going around arguing with everyone in bad faith just because you are convinced of your position? I see you all over this thread just throwing out any reasons you can that it should be removed. It seems like you have your mind made up and are just here to evangelize, not discuss. Hacker News is for discussion and open-mindedness.
It's weird to me because I seem to be replying to people talking from a prescriptive position (ie "social security should care for the elderly"), while I am trying to force the conversation to a descriptive (ie here are the actual observed impacts of social security).
I don't want to discuss should-statements, and I don't think that violates the spirit of HN.
