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> Perhaps on the cost, but the US has the best doctors in the world. If I need major surgery, I know I can get it in a reasonable amount of time. In many other countries in Europe or even Canada, the government gets to decide if I need to get it or not and the wait time could be in years.

With unbounded money, perhaps.

For the average person, the difference in life expectancy suggests perhaps not.

> Everyone says the elderly in the US will go broke after a single major surgery. My dad is on Medicare with a low-cost supplemental insurance. He's been in multiple hospitals for the last 6 months and short-term care for the last 6 weeks.

The elderly? Medicare in particular (I had to look it up) is for over 65s and a few other groups, not everyone.

As I see them, the complaints are for people in general, and there's plenty of examples of medical bankruptcies in the USA: https://www.cgaa.org/article/medical-bankruptcies-by-state

> My elderly relatives have to wait many months to get surgery in Canada. The UK also has a failing healthcare system. The issue is that in times of economic downturns, socialized medicine gets cut.

The USA's government-funded healthcare costs more per capita than the NHS, despite only being for a subset of the population, supplemented by private insurance, and getting worse outcomes.

> I don't think I've seen a single example of socialized medicine that doesn't end up with long wait times for major surgeries or the government making health decisions for you.

"Under capitalism, man oppresses man. Under socialism, it's just the opposite." - old Soviet quote.

In the matter of "making health decisions for you", all you do is replace governments with corporations, hence what was carved onto the bullets that killed the CEO of United Health.



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