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Which country? In Germany and Austria you still have DSL cable because the telco monopolies are golf buddies with the politicians.




I was taking a train from somewhere in Bavaria to Austria. More than half of the ride the train lady was chilling next to us because "there is no internet, I cannot check tickets" the whole ride you could see houses out of the window. People are actually living there. This was like 6 years ago but I am still baffled by this.

In Switzerland it's very unlikely you find a mountain or road without 4g


"Germany's 5G coverage was 99% in 2024, slightly exceeding the EU average."

https://www.heise.de/en/news/EU-digitization-report-Fiber-op...

"Today passengers enjoy at least 200 Mbit/s on 99 per cent of the 7 800 kilometres of main lines and even 300 Mbit/s or more on 95 per cent. Secondary lines also saw a transformation. Coverage of 100 Mbit/s rose from under 83 per cent to over 96 per cent in just three years."

However:

"Yet coverage is only half the story. Mobile signals must penetrate each carriage’s interior if passengers are to make calls or stream without interruption. Many modern trains are fitted with factory-installed windows engineered for signal permeability."

And of course many train's aren't fitted with windows like that (and operators are trying to retrofit them with microcells or in other ways).

https://www.connectivity.technology/2025/05/seamless-5g-conn...


I hear complaints about German internet connections all the time, and it blows my mind that this could still be the case. What an utter self-own.

I am currently in Poland, the very SW corner. Close enough to get both German and Czech radio in the car.


>What an utter self-own.

Which self own? Besides the one making your industry dependent on energy from your military opponent? Besides the one putting all your eggs in selling diesel engines when China and the US were betting on computer driven battery powered EVs? Besides the one where you open your borders to unvetted illegal immigrants leading to a rise in crime, terror attacks and right wing extremism all over Europe?

Because I lost track.


> Which self own? Besides the one making your industry dependent on energy from your military opponent?

Yeah, that too I suppose. How could Schroeder have known? :/


I could have fiber, but I see no point in upgrading from DSL. Why? It works. In fact, I could have upgraded to 250 Mbit DSL years and years ago, but 100 Mbit is fine. Why bother spending money or time making changes to my home's critical infrastructure. I doubt I'm the only one.

And then there's the millions of boomers around whose only device is a smartphone and they never exceed the 10 or 20 or 30 GB they get on a mobile contract that's less than any DSL or fiber contract. Good luck selling them 900 Mbit symmetric links.

In fact I'm sure there must be hundreds of thousands who still pay for DSL that's essentially unused because their phone lost the Wifi credentials and there's no grandkid around to notice it. Their house will be upgraded to fiber when it gets resold because it ticks a box for the real estate agent.


> I could have fiber, but I see no point in upgrading from DSL. Why? It works. In fact, I could have upgraded to 250 Mbit DSL years and years ago, but 100 Mbit is fine. Why bother spending money or time making changes to my home's critical infrastructure. I doubt I'm the only one.

We get 250 Mbit into our house and our house has Ethernet cables going through the walls to different floors but the cables are all limited 100 Mbit and it is tilting me of the face of the planet... :(

Replacing them isn't much of an option, just maybe running other cables around the walls, which isn't the nicest option when the existing cables are all nicely not visible.


>I could have fiber, but I see no point in upgrading from DSL. Why? It works.

How do you explain to a caveman that a living in a house is nicer than living in a cave?

>Why bother spending money or time making changes to my home's critical infrastructure. I doubt I'm the only one.

You don't have to pay, In Eastern Europe telcos pay themselves to wire fiber to your door in hopes you'll sign up with them. It's something you don't have in Germany, it's called free market competition. The German mind just can't comprehend having competitive companies that serve the consumers and not sclerotic state supported monopolies that only support the shareholders by robbing the consumers. Why are you guys like this?

>And then there's the millions of boomers

Of course, the way to move forward technologically is to cater tech to boomers habits. That's why Germany is a SW innovation powerhouse.


> You don't have to pay, In Eastern Europe telcos pay themselves to wire fiber to your door in hopes you'll sign up with them.

It's wired, I just have to sign up. But 1000 Mbit is more expensive than the 100 Mbit I have now. I just don't see the point. If that makes me caveman, so be it. Work on your manners.




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