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>Framework-like upgradability / repairability / modularity

>Support for GrapheneOS

>Sold in USA






GrapheneOS support for Fairphone is unlikely to ever happen. Their hardware is too insecure to satisfy GOS's reasonable requirements [1] and have stated that they aren't interested in improving it [2]. Software is also lacking and they've partnered with Murena [3], who has been slinging shit at GOS [4].

On a more positive note, due to the AOSP/Pixel drama there now is a real possibility a different major OEM will be supported: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114711328082841462

[1] https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

[2] https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114733211017800480

[3] https://murena.com/

[4] https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114235396540176085


I think that secure elements pose a greater disadvantage to the consumer due to vendor lockdown than the advantages in physical security make up for.

> On a more positive note, due to the AOSP/Pixel drama there now is a real possibility a different major OEM will be supported

I really do not know which other major OEM other than exynos-based samsung that comes near GOS' checklist, but here I am hoping if he is talking about Nothing phone.


That's excellent news that they're partnering with an OEM to make something. Here's hoping it's someone like Framework that has sustainability in mind as well.

Why not Framework themselves? By now, they have brand recognition to certain extent and a ready customer base - I think a Framework phone with choices of GrapheneOS or LineageOS or standard Googleized option could be a very compelling product.

That is if they can sort out their availability gaps.


Massive cost.

Their phones are sold in the USA through Murena. I've bought a fairphone 4 through them. It was preloaded with eOS but I loaded calyxOS on it, which is similar to GrapheneOS.

https://murena.com/products/smartphones/

It also supports a lot of linux distributions, including UBPorts and postmarketOS.

I wish that they would just stick with one form factor and do the "framework computer" approach though.


calyxOS is _not_ similar to GrapheneOS

It’s similar in some ways, like being de-Googled, more private than Google’s Android OS by default, etc. Both are based on AOSP. They are “similar.”



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