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> > Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.

> One does not entail the other. You can support our right to self-determination while not supporting...policies, but this sentence conflates them.

Uh...exactly? You're criticizing the state. Per the definition you can do that, but you can't generalize to the people. And certainly, calling the state a "racist endeavor" should cross the line?

Basically, all three of your examples boil down to the same thing: you want to accuse a nation of something bad, and think it’s somehow unfair that, under this definition, you can’t then accuse a people of the act. That isn’t ambiguous. If you did the same thing for, say, Chinese people and the CCP, you’d be equally wrong. Jewish people are not of one mind about current events, and that seems like a fairly obvious point.

As far as the third item, specifically, any comparison to the Nazi party is so hyperbolic as to be in obvious bad faith.






Accusing a nation of something bad is precisely what their definition of anti-semitism includes. The examples they gave are all from the controversal definition of anti-semitism.

> Accusing a nation of something bad is precisely what their definition of anti-semitism includes.

They literally say the opposite, right in the paragraph I quoted at the top.

Yes, they give examples of criticizing Israel. But the point of the examples is that you a) can't apply standards unique to Israel, and b) if you do criticize the country, it's not fair game to extend it to an entire people.


But under this guideline it seems that if I say "ethnostates are a crime against humanity and Israel is committing genocide to create an ethnostate just like the Nazis did" I'm violating these guidelines in a number of ways despite this being purely political criticism leveled at the state and not at Jewish people.

It seems to me that you’ve understood the point and are now just attempting to play games with code.

I'm not sure what you mean, can you elaborate?



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