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Next has become a joke. It’s mildly frustrating that with Remix’s inexplicable transformation into react-router, there’s few great react frameworks left (for me), I’m back to plain vite with tanstack router.


I’m surprised this post is able to stay up on hackernews.

One time I simply made a post about how a page was simpler to code and understand in Remix.

You may not believe this but I had 3+ chat requests from multiple employees at vercel.

Across multiple social media accounts. All asking to take it down or meet and discuss with them.


Lee Robinson from Vercel is gonna show up in this thread as soon as he wakes up, don’t worry.


Same here, I wrote an article about why my company chose astro over NextJS and I was immediately added by a Vercel guy on LinkedIn.


What a poor approach to try and protect the brand.


You should write about that? Good thing I am out of the social media sites these days.


I've been trying and learning TanStack Router with a new project and it's been really nice, so nice that I then added TanStack Query, and then also added TanStack Form.


TanStack Query is the best library in the entire frontend ecosystem IMO.

I'm still using React Router tho (as a dumb SPA router, not the new "framework" features). I might take a look at TanStack Router one day.


I'm not sure if you are implying that you aren't using remix anymore after the rebranding, or that it's not a framework anymore?

Because React Router 7 definitely works as a framework [1] and it works like a charm.

Source: Backend developer with 15 years experience, lately switched to full stack, using RR7 after advice from a very good friend, still getting amazed every day.

[1] https://reactrouter.com/start/framework/installation


Remix still works fine. React router v7? Well, I guess? Ever since I switched that on the project all my types come out weird. It’s not the end of the world, but remix is a framework, react-router is a component. Now they’ve conflated the two, and it just doesn’t work for me.


What are the best alternatives? Why Vite?

I use Next for a handful of small projects, and SEO was always touted as the big benefit to me.

I can just generate a bunch of static files, copy to S3, and be done. Is that not true anymore?


Have you tried reading the article? It specifically addresses your SEO question.


React Router 7, formerly known as Remix.


What's the issue with the remix -> react-router transition? As far as I can tell it's just a branding thing.


I started learning Remix, which was then relaunched as RRv7. Now Remix is going to be revived, and based on Preact instead[0].

I have given up and started learning NextJS. At least it has marketshare, while Remix will never gain traction because it keeps getting torpedoed by a couple of pivot artists.

[0] https://remix.run/blog/wake-up-remix


OMG… this is so… dumb. There’s literally no other word for sabotaging yourself so hard.


Remix or React Router + Vite is still great.




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