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> Does this court order violate GDPR or my rights under European or other privacy laws?

> We are taking steps to comply at this time because we must follow the law, but The New York Times’ demand does not align with our privacy standards. That is why we’re challenging it.

That's a lot of words to say "yes, we are violating GDPR".



No, they're not, because the GDPR has an explicit exception for when a court orders that a company keeps data for discovery. It'd only be a GDPR violation if it's kept after this case is over.


This is not correct.

> Any judgment of a court or tribunal and any decision of an administrative authority of a third country requiring a controller or processor to transfer or disclose personal data may only be recognised or enforceable in any manner if based on an international agreement, such as a mutual legal assistance treaty, in force between the requesting third country and the Union or a Member State, without prejudice to other grounds for transfer pursuant to this Chapter.

So if, and only if, an agreement between the US and the EU allows it explicitly, it is legal. Otherwise it is not.


That's what they are trying to suggest, because they are still trying to use the GDPR as part of their argument challenging the US court order. (Kind of a longshot to get a US court to agree that the obligation of a US party to preserve evidence related to a suit in US courts under US law filed by another US party is mitigated by European regulations in any case, even if their argument that such preservation would violate obligations that the EU had imposed on them.)


Maybe the will ot store the chats of the European users?


Could a European court not have ordered the same thing? Is there an exception for lawsuits?


There is, but I highly doubt a European court would have given such an order (or if they did, it would probably be axed by a higher court pretty quickly).

There's decades of legal disputes in some European countries on whether it's even legitimate for the government to mandate your ISP or phone company to collect metadata on you for after-the-fact law enforcement searches.

Looking at the actual data seems much more invasive than that and, in my (non-legally trained) estimate doesn't seem like it would stand a chance at least in higher courts.


> There's decades of legal disputes in some European countries on whether it's even legitimate for the government to mandate your ISP or phone company to collect metadata on you for after-the-fact law enforcement searches.

> Looking at the actual data seems much more invasive than that

Looking at the data isn't involved in the current order, which requires OpenAI to preserve and segregate the data that would otherwise have been deleted. The reason for segregation is because any challenges OpenAI has to providing that data in disccovery will be heard before anyone other than OpenAI is ordered to have access to the data.

This is, in fact, less invasive than the government mandating collection for speculative future uses, since it applies only to not destroying evidence already collected by OpenAI in the course of operating their business, and only for potential use, subject to other challenges by OpenAI, in the present case.




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