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I would normally second this, but the Trump admin did order a suspension of offensive cyber operations against Russia in March. So not sure you can truly rule out malice in this case.





And also asked Russian intelligence services to hack his opponent in 2016, which they did the next day.

you could not make this shit up, right!?

There was specifically the televised "Russia, if you're listening..." quip followed by the release of the DNC emails.

>a suspension of offensive cyber operations against Russia in March.

uhhh... why are we commiting offensive cyber operations against a nuclear power? Somewhere in your line you seems to think that it's justified? And that biden was doing the right thing by provoking a major power?

Some people just want the world to burn, and when someone puts out the fire, they think that's unamerican?


> why are we commiting offensive cyber operations against a nuclear power?

Maybe because they are doing it too ?


Such Biden logic that ended with us launching missiles into russia. A constant escalation with no real end in sight and always matching "tit-for-tat- instead of trying to solve the root issue.

You don't think trump is actively involved in negotations with russia to stop all this madness?

Don't you think that one of the first signs of good faith in negotations would be to stop attacking eachother?


You misspelled Reagan.

(Though to be fair, every president since Truman has escalated things with Russia/USSR, except maybe Clinton. Reagan just did more than most.)

> You don't think trump is actively involved in negotations[sic] with russia to stop all this madness?

No, I think Trump is doing whatever Putin wants him to do.


No other president has given explicit permission to launch american missles and use american guidance systems to launch missles into russian territory... Besides biden. What are you talking about?

And you forgot... besides Trump. because trumps not a warmonger, people like to act like he's on the side of the russians. People have lost their minds.


> trumps not a warmonger

In the last 3 months, Trump has threatened to invade:

- Greenland - Canada - Mexico - Panama - Cuba

> people like to act like he's on the side of the russians

Trump has said that Ukraine is the one that started the war, and the "deal" he negotiated to end the war excluded Ukraine from the discussion and would give Russia everything it asked for.

> People have lost their minds.

You're right on that point, but its probably not the people you're thinking of.


Because when someone punches you in the face, you punch back?

Also I don't know why we keep referring to Russia as a major power, their GDP is about the size of Italy's, their economy is on the rocks, their military stockpile is depleted from a failed invasion of their much, much smaller neighbor.


failed operation? Have you seen the war map? After the whole world dumped all their stockpiles to ukraine for over $500B, the russians have still taken over a 3rd of the country. Biden logic was going to lead to a american troops on the ground, and a vietnam all over again.

Russia didn't punch us in the face, they punched some dude that we barley knew in highschool half way across the world.


Your numbers are way off. Ukraine has not received "over $500B". According to the Kiel institute tracker, as of February, the total military support for Ukraine from all all over the world combined stands at 132 billion EUR (~148bn USD). Nor does Russia control a third of the country. Russia controls 18.3%, of which 7.05% was occupied before 2022 and 11.25% since then. The total area held by Russia peaked in the first month of the war at 25.86%, was reduced to 18% with Ukrainian counteroffensives, and has stood there since the late 2022.

Scroll to "Overall control of Ukraine": https://www.warmapper.org/stats

While looking at the chart, keep in mind that Russia currently loses around 30-45k people a month as dead and wounded and they have nothing to show for it. The last major territorial gains were during the first month of the war in March 2022. It's a total military disaster with no end in sight.

And the person you replied to is absolutely right: Russia is not fighting for the potato fields of Ukraine, but to dismantle the entire international security system that the US built after the WWII to secure commerce and influence on the world. Ukraine is one of the stepping stones. Here's the full blueprint: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics#Con...




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