Hacker News new | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submit login

Someone else's lack of discipline has a far more negative effect on my life than their obesity does. So I reject this choice entirely—I'd rather we stop looking for easy fixes to hard problems.

I don't judge people for taking ozempic, but I am absolutely confused why people see this as a massive win for society. We're just doubling down on our dysfunction.






We can live in the world where people don't take GLP-1s, and there are a lot of fat, unhealthy, and undisciplined people. Or we can live in the world where people do take GLP-1s, and there are a lot of not-fat, healthier, still-undisciplined people. I would rather live in the second world. I don't understand why you want to live in the first world (over the second world).

I agree with you in the same way that casts don't fix the underlying problem - a broken bone, or band-aids don't fix the issue - a cut. Until people start to treat the real issue and stop relying on crutches, we're just covering up the problem.

This is just not addressing the issue.

What's causing the hormone issues? Who cares. Throw a pill at it and we can forget about it.


> Throw a pill at it and we can forget about it.

I don't really see myself ever forgiving the west for prioritizing medication over holistic treatment. I've been through way too many mental health institutions to ever trust medicated treatment.


So, what's your solution to "lack of self discipline"?

What is the physical basis for lack of self discipline?


> So, what's your solution to "lack of self discipline"?

IDK, wanting to be alive and happy?

> What is the physical basis for lack of self discipline?

That's just a category error. I just don't see obesity as worth caring about on an individual-level compared to the social dysfunction that produces it. If we can only address problems on an individual-level I don't really see why I should expect anything positive from society—that's just not rational.


You just avoided answering the questions entirely.

But you still want to pass judgement using your ill-defined concept of "self discipline."




Consider applying for YC's Summer 2025 batch! Applications are open till May 13

Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: