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I'm really tired of this song and dance at this point of being alarmist for trusting every little thing Trump says he'll do, no matter how crazy.

This is the exact opposite of the Boy who Cried Wolf. How many sheep need to be eaten before you trust the shepard? Or you know, the wolf who keeps saying "I'm going to eat these sheep"?



It is the act of not jumping to conclusions that makes us better than him. I understand completely that if he could get away with it, he would detain citizens, but I am not convinced yet that he can. If we jump the gun, we are no better than him.


How is it "jumping to conclusions" to take what the president of thr United States says at face value?

>I understand completely that if he could get away with it, he would detain citizens, but I am not convinced yet that he can.

He already did. Thars the issue. Visa holders are already citizens. Do I need to to show you thr footage of a college woman being kidnapped off the street by un-badged men?


No, the word citizen applies very strictly to US Citizen which is a strict legal designatation that visa holders do not possess.


“US citizen” and implying some higher necessity of honoring his rights is a false dichotomy, Under the U.S. Constitution (especially the 5th and 14th Amendments), all “persons” (not just citizens) are entitled to due process protections. Further, even outside of his applicability to INA, he was explicitly granted a Withholding of Removal, and was specifically barred from any removal with the end destination being El Salvador. The Supreme Court also unanimously ruled his deportation as illegal. This is settled law through ANY and EVERY avenue you look at it. There are no straws to grasp.




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