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> The tariffs will create more jobs in the US (and in other economies due to retaliatory tariffs there) and so there will be more people in the market who will be able to afford to pay 10% more.

This isn't backed by evidence, it's at best speculation for some potential future at least 4 years, but probably closer to 10, in the future. Most industries cannot simply just spin up new factories at the turn of a switch.



Also, if most countries continue to trade freely with each other but there are import/export taxes on just the U.S., the U.S. becomes an unattractive place for any products with international supply chains or that are amortized across an international market, both in terms of manufacture and sales.

There was a good post here the other day on bicycle manufacturing that pointed out that, while cheap, high volume, low-end products may indeed be practical to manufacture in the U.S. primarily for the U.S. market, it may not make sense to manufacture many high-end products behind trade barriers. Such products have low margins and need free access to the world market to make sense to build. Those that are currently manufactured outside the U.S. will likely stay outside the U.S. while those made in the U.S. may have to consider moving. Some will likely just no longer make sense to import into the U.S., leaving a void in that market, and some won't make sense to build at all.

Breaking the world market up into regions, as the U.S. is currently attempting, reduces the world's ability to make specialized, low-volume products.


> This isn't backed by evidence, it's at best speculation for some potential future at least 4 years, but probably closer to 10, in the future. Most industries cannot simply just spin up new factories at the turn of a switch.

There are two arguments in favor of free trade:

1) We don’t want to spend expensive american labor building X.

2) We don’t have the industrial capability to build X anymore.

The latter seems to be a damning indictment of the former. It’s one thing not to build X domestically to save money. It’s another thing to lose the capability to feasibly build X in the US because you have outsources that capability and lost it.

I’m sure if we ever got into a war with China, they’d wait for us for a decade to rebuild our manufacturing capacity.


#2 is basically the whole justification for the military industrial complex. Why do you think so many tax dollars go to the big ominous "military spending" bucket? It's not going into some black whole, it props up hundreds of thousands of manufacturing and R&D jobs. Even then, it doesn't justify blanket tariffs on entire countries, it would justify tariffs on specific industries that are seen as strategic, which is not what's happening.


> a decade

You're quite optimistic. With the current administration and its purge of federal workers (including those in NIST), it will likely take much longer than that.


> There are two arguments in favor of free trade

You missed the single most common argument in favor of free trade:

1. Everyone has more stuff than otherwise.

Under free trade, total world production is higher.


I think that is related to #1 above, but isn't necessarily true.

There can be winners and losers of free trade, despite more aggregate production. I dont personally think we were there, but it is a possibility.


> I think that is related to #1 above

It isn't; if we had lower labor costs than everywhere else, free trade would still have the same effects.


> Most industries cannot simply just spin up new factories at the turn of a switch.

Particularly given how wild this administration is. Who knows what the situation will be tomorrow, even! America is increasingly perceived as a wildly unreliable partner.




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