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Yeah, I agree, fuck seals. The more we damage marine mammal life with loud sounds the better. If they didn’t want to get killed off in awful ways by our tech toys they should have evolved ear muffs.


> strapping a pair of headphones onto a seal and playing rocket sounds to it.

That sounds more traumatizing to the seals than the actual launch.

Anyways:

https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-1-4939-3456-0_...


> That sounds more traumatizing to the seals than the actual launch.

To a substantially smaller number of seals.


that don't even exist. (see link)


Your link is about the Gulf of Mexico.

Vandenberg (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandenberg_Space_Force_Base) is on the Pacific Ocean, where there are most certainly seals and sea lions. https://www.vandenberg.spaceforce.mil/News/Features/Display/...

You have the wrong body of water.


Delta IV heavies also launched from Vandenburg since long before f9 existed, and is considerably louder than falcon 9. was there a need for that study?


The study was apparently for the Delta IV. https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1848070131781455911


same thread, tory bruno says it was not for delta IV

https://x.com/torybruno/status/1848797537215410627


I'm pretty sure he's talking about Starship, not Falcon 9. Starship doesn't launch from Vandenberg; neither Starship launch site has seals present.

Propellant mass 441,800 lbs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_IV_Heavy) to 906,000 lbs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falcon_Heavy) in the respective first stages.


falcon 9 heavy has never launched from vandenburg.


But it will.

https://www.vandenberg.spaceforce.mil/News/Article-Display/A...

(Starship hasn’t, either.)


IIRC this study was not about the lethality of Starship, it was about whether the seals were agitated or disturbed by the launch.




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