Everyone would agree they'd like to pay less for health care. Much fewer would agree with specific proposals purporting to achieve that. Many people understand that the accumulation of political interventions over the past ~60 years are the primary thing driving costs up.

I don't know if you're new to HN or if you made an alt account just for this, but…

The underlying principle of HN is that discussions should engender curiosity.

Talking point pissing matches and trying to dunk in replies permeate conversation everywhere else, especially when the people in power are controversial. Please take that energy elsewhere.

If you wanna participate in HN, aim for replies that everyone would find interesting. This isn't a board for interpersonal arguments.