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> The reason security clearances are so important...puts the entire American system in pretty serious danger.

Remember when Michael Flynn was National Security Advisor? The guy had secret meetings with Russian spies and gave a talk at GRU headquarters. In the first administration there were obvious spies from our adversaries working in top government positions, and the same seems to be true of this administration.

Also remember when Trump gave away nuclear secrets? Or when Russian sources "disappeared" after Trump outed them? Or when the CIA reported dozens of spies being killed, arrested, or compromised?

These randos getting access to so much data aren't a separate threat. They're part of the same threat presented by the administration as a whole.




wait, you actually believe all this dis-info?

The CIA doesn't control Trump. They have been passively and actively subverting him since 2015. It's sad to see someone fall for their psy-ops.


What here is disinformation?


What here is disinformation?

> The guy had secret meetings with Russian spies

> when Trump gave away nuclear secrets

> there were obvious spies from our adversaries working in top government positions

> Russian sources "disappeared" after Trump outed them

Almost all of the gp post was already disproven disinformation.


I've heard folks argue about these claims for a long time, and I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt as I've heard most of these as accurate. So, I wanted to see what some AI assistance could come up with. You may or may not like the results, depending on whether you think AI could never assist on something like, and if you agree it could, whether the results are meaningful to overcome the backfire effect.[0]

Results are here [1], and I'll post below: https://chatgpt.com/share/67aa734b-6b0c-8001-8237-f4458c6dee...

1. The guy had secret meetings with Russian spies

Partially True - https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/us/politics/trump-russia-... - Carter Page, a former Trump campaign adviser, was approached by Russian spies in 2013 who attempted to recruit him. While Page met with Russian officials, it's not confirmed that these were clandestine meetings with spies during his tenure with the Trump campaign.

2. When Trump gave away nuclear secrets

True - https://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-allegedly-classifi... - In a 49-page indictment unsealed in 2023, prosecutors allege that Trump had in his possession documents concerning the "nuclear programs" of the United States.

3. There were obvious spies from our adversaries working in top government positions

Misinformation - No credible sources available - There is no verified evidence to support the claim that individuals identified as spies from adversarial nations held top positions within the U.S. government during Trump's administration.

4. Russian sources "disappeared" after Trump outed them

True - https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/17/russian-sour... - After Trump declassified evidence provided by a former British spy regarding his alleged links to Russia, certain Russian sources reportedly vanished.

[0] https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe_clean

[1] https://chatgpt.com/share/67aa734b-6b0c-8001-8237-f4458c6dee...


Thank you for the thoughtful reply. Note that all the citations are USAID funded media orgs and have deep ties to the CIA or the IC.

Also note that their sources are all basically IC sources + DOJ allegations. This supports my original statement that this is all a large scale disinformation campaign aimed at the American people. The CIA has conducted these operations for decades, and now they are doing it to us. As Chuck Schumer so eloquently put it "They have six ways to Sunday at getting back at you"

https://www.aclu.org/news/national-security/do-us-politician...


For logic, coherency, and rationality, your positive claim requires quite a bit more proof. Apply Hitchen's razor.




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