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Unless I can right click (or long press) and copy or save and then paste somewhere else, I don't want it.





Yep! Sure, we can call GIF a “legacy” format but at least I can copy and paste it.

TL;DR: An Audio GIF stores audio inside a standards compliant GIF image: https://audiogif.rancidbacon.com/

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From a brief test, at least some of the options on the page do support save-able single file--depending on the browser (e.g. desktop Firefox with right-click).

It is unfortunate that few, if any, of the commercial "GIF host" services or social media sites made any attempt to preserve the single file nature of the GIF with their "more efficient" replacements. Of course, in many cases this was intentional because they wanted to require people to use the company's web site as the "player".

Even more so, it has long bugged me that none of the attempted "replacements" have made any attempt to make use of the inherent extensibility of the GIF format itself to support transitioning to a more efficient format while also preserving the single file nature of the GIF and supporting "legacy" GIF-only clients.

The GIF format's extensibility was how GIFs gained the ability to loop, after all.

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The GIF format could've been used to support transitioning to a more efficient format.

The key observations to make were:

(1) A GIF image sequence when converted to an efficient compressed video format occupied only small fraction of the original GIF.

(2) Thus a compressed video variant of the GIF could be appended to the original GIF file and the overall file size wouldn't be "significantly" larger than the original GIF.

(3) But even better thanks to GIF's extensibility via "Application Extension", rather than appending, the video data could "transparently" be embedded into the GIF (with a small size efficiency loss) and thus the file could be downloaded, transported & "legacy" visuals displayed by existing tools--without loss of the embedded compressed video variant's data.

(4) The last piece of the puzzle is that if we, say, also include a size value N in the second-to-last block of the GIF (with some fixed-byte-size per format version) then "NuGIF"-aware (or whatever :) ) client software (or, e.g. a JavaScript shim) could perform a HEAD request for total file size, followed by range-request of the second-to-last block, followed by range-request of last N-ish bytes to download just the bytes of the video encoded version. And "legacy" clients wouldn't be particularly "significantly" burdened by the additional video variant bytes contained with in the GIF.

But, ya know, nobody did. :)

(Obviously there's also the opportunity for a "more efficient" but "less ideal" variant of the concept such as simply embedding an alternative video URL in the GIF instead but that wouldn't be nearly as cool. :D )

Of course, one obvious risk with a "dual content" format like this is that it would be possible for the GIF-encoded visual content to not match the video encoded visual content--as is already the case with e.g. embedded image thumbnails. (I've vaguely contemplated how the consistency might be verified with "untrusted sources" in some way based on--some portion of--actual visual content but... *shrug*)

Anyway all that has always just been a concept but...

...of course, we've just been ignoring the elephant trumpeting in the room...

...the reason I started digging into the GIF format in the first place...

...the thing that's always been missing from GIFs...

...sound!

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Which is why about six years ago I created...

[Headphone warning.]

...the Audio GIF: https://audiogif.rancidbacon.com

[Spoiler alert: Just noticed, apparently, Web Audio API policy changed again at some point, so you may get `AudioContext` console message spam. :/ Guess that's web development for you--these days I normally let Godot handle it for me. :D The demo reel sequence used to only require a click on the first image...]

Complete with demo reel (no plugin needed!): https://audiogif.rancidbacon.com/start/

Yet, still just a.gif file: https://audiogif.rancidbacon.com/assets/samples/woah.a.gif

[Note: Just looked at the code & apparently past me never got around to making "Save Image As..." work when on a demo reel page but "Save Link As..." should work. :)]

[Also, No Spoilers but seriously what are the odds of me hearing this specific line being uttered "on air" during the time I was working on this project: https://audiogif.rancidbacon.com/three/ ?! :D ]

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My Audio GIF project remains one I'm particularly proud of--in part just because I did actually release the thing; and, then, I guess I just really like lower-level hacks that serve no practical purpose but challenge "assumed wisdom"? :)

Oh, yeah, and part of the motivation for completing the project was the existence of a Reddit thread many years prior where I saw someone get almost totally mocked for having the audacity to ask whether it was possible for a GIF to have audio--to which the answer was a resounding (yet incorrect): No!

(Which I already knew at the time was entirely possible in theory.)

To their credit, I do recall there was one person who was brave enough to comment that it was a theoretical possibility.

So, for years after I assumed someone would surely create such project.

And, eventually, when someone didn't, I did. :)

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One thing at the time that was cool was I discovered that some GIF hosting services that provided access to an actual GIF file also didn't strip unknown "Application Extension" blocks from the GIF file--so the audio in the GIF was preserved!

Unfortunately one thing at the time that was uncool was I discovered it was during a window of time when Range Requests required CORS--a restriction I think was eventually removed as unnecessary--but as a result I didn't upload a public demo that used an Audio GIF stored on one of the standard GIF hosts.

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Obviously the Audio GIF format didn't exactly... set the world on fire at the time but that's okay because according to the linked article GIFs are "‘for boomers’ and ‘cringe’" anyway.

But... in twenty-five years time, when streaming isn't cool and vinyl isn't cool and camcorders aren't cool and when even audio cassettes are uncool again... well, the Audio GIF will be there waiting...

Waiting for someone to innocently ask: "Can GIFs have audio?"...

Waiting so a small voice can cut through the raucous laughter and say: "Well, ackchyually..."...

And, then, my work will be complete. :D

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Too Long; Did Epilogue:

As a lesson for us all, perhaps the most amusing part of the whole project occurred when, having finally released everything, I posted one of the demo Audio GIFs to /r/gifs...

...only to have the mods reject the submission because... "it isn't a GIF" ...because... "GIFs don't have audio" ...despite literally being a GIF file! :D

Turns out, somewhere along the line, apparently "GIF" stopped being a specific file format and instead became a category referring to any short looping image sequence without sound--whatever the file format. :D *shrug*

skinner-out-of-touch.not.a.gif

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Anyway, apparently this is my "How to GIF (2025 Edition)" article, so if you made it this far: thanks for reading. :)




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