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You are out of your mind if you think files in iCloud are somehow outside the reach of US intel.

It’s been publicly used in a bunch of prosecutions at this point.






We all know Apple (and everyone else) gives data to law enforcement all over the world https://www.apple.com/legal/transparency/

You're including end-to-end encrypted content in that as well, like from Advanced Data Protection?

> If you choose to enable Advanced Data Protection, the majority of your iCloud data – including iCloud Backup, Photos, Notes and more – is protected using end-to-end encryption. No one else can access your end-to-end encrypted data, not even Apple, and this data remains secure even in the case of a data breach in the cloud.

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/108756

I have no opinion on whether US intel has a backdoor into this e2e encryption or not. It seems like the sort of thing where people non-chalantly state that it must happen, but of course no one ever has actual proof or a source.


We're specifically talking about files encrypted E2E using ADP. Can you point to any such files being used in prosecutions?

> It’s been publicly used in a bunch of prosecutions at this point

Can you give an example then? It would be major hacker news news if supposedly E2EE iCloud data were used in a prosecution.


Got any sources to back that up?

I mean, you're right. People think "end to end" encryption helps them, but they forget that Apple controls both the server and client more than the user does.



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