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Australia does a great job of enacting wacky authoritarian policies in the last 5 years; It would make sense to use them as a staging ground. Does any specific legislation come to mind?





Social media ban for under 16s is the latest half witted idea enacted by the government here.

This week we've had the federal laws strengthend to a one year minimum jail time for nazi salutes. I think saying "punch a nazi" unironically could now also get you a year in jail, but I'm not sure about that one.

Oh, you feel the need to defend nazis?

No, the neo-nazis can defend themselves. I just support personal freedoms.

You’re deflecting.

As such you demonstrate that you will not be an ally in case of a surge of unethical behavior.

The point isn’t for nazis to defend themselves - it is to defeat them while you can.


I'm not deflecting I think we just have different points of view.

> The point ... is to defeat them while you can.

That can be your point, and with that framing almost anything is permissible! My point is generally to let free, open democracy run its course without putting our fingers on the scale too much.

I'm not scared of people doing a salute in the style of a movement that's been dead for almost a century. I'm not scared of communists flags or chants, or people chanting from the river to the sea. I think it's all healthy as long as it's non violent. The argument that it leads to violence is not logically sound and very minority reportesque.


> The argument that it leads to violence is not logically sound and very minority reportesque.

That a nazi salute, corroborated with converging political views…? You obviously don’t understand, don’t see how things happen.

Or you do, and you know downplaying “nazi wannabees” is part of the game.

It’s not about being scared but principled: an open democracy does not tolerate ideas going against its very foundations: it makes sure these are, expressed maybe, but kept in a very strict perimeter which they ought no get out from.


Banning Social Media for under 16s is a great idea. Hopefully other countries follow soon.

Any specific whacky examples?


I started reading and it talks about something where a warrant and a case are required to request interception on each case. Is that whacky? You don't think it helps you know fight crime and stuff? Or you have an actual specific example?



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