Odersky forcing through major syntax changes for Scala 3 was such an unforced er...

hawk_ · 2025-02-06T22:15:11 1738880111

Stroustrup said "There's two kinds of PLs, ones that people complain about and ones that nobody uses."

Odersky made Scala3 become a language that nobody uses and people complain about!

threeseed · 2025-02-06T22:23:50 1738880630

Problem is he’s a full time academic.

So he doesn’t care if this amazing feature he’s invented has no IDE support.

Or if the Scala tooling ecosystem is so ridiculously poor.

Pet_Ant · 2025-02-06T21:37:53 1738877873

But did it provide a gain in power and soundness? There issues with the 2.x system.

lmm · 2025-02-07T00:26:12 1738887972

It did, which makes it all the more frustrating that you can't adopt it separately from the syntax and tooling changes.

Taikonerd · 2025-02-07T15:16:32 1738941392

But the new syntax is optional, right? So you could upgrade and keep the old syntax? (I'm not a Scala dev, so this is just my impression.)

lmm · 2025-02-08T01:05:47 1738976747

Some of the syntax changes are optional, some of them like the _/* change aren't.

merb · 2025-02-06T21:45:26 1738878326

Most programming languages have unsound features.