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I want a (preferably open source) android phone without spam. I'd pay a healthy amount for it. I don't want to flash roms or do anything like that.

Anyone tried the Fairphone? How is it for notification spam?




> I'd pay a healthy amount for it.

I think unfortunately while a lot of people claim they would do so, in actuallity they still have a limit on how much they would fund such an endeavor, and there's not enough such people that care to properly fund the amount of work it is to maintain such a large amount of code as exists to support modern smart phones.


What notification spam do you mean? Even on Google's Android, I feel like it's really easy to turn off any notifications I don't want.


Thanks for your comments. I didn't realize settings allowed you to turn those off. Now fixed. Hallelujiah.



You can buy a Pixel 9 with GrapheneOS preinstalled from here: https://shop.nitrokey.com/shop/nitrophone-5-723

I have no relationship with Nitrokey but they seem to be a legit open-source company in Germany, with a github account. I do run GrapheneOS and I recommend it. GrapheneOS is fully open source (from the kernel up) and free of google services in the default install. No "spam" IMO, but it does notify you when a security update is installed (which requires a reboot).


> Anyone tried the Fairphone?

I wish I could say yes. Sadly, they still don't sell to the USA. They tried doing some sort of partnership a bit ago with the last Fairphone and an USA vendor but it seemed to not go very far. Can't even get the latest phone from them, and they have some sort of custom OS on it.


you can get a fairphone 4 in the USA. rooting and replacing with calyx is a thing.


Sure, but paying Fairphone 5 prices for a less-powerful Fairphone 4, and then needing to flash an aftermarket ROM on it and live forevermore in a grey area support-wise? The value proposition just isn't there for me.


> they still don't sell to the USA.

I'm just addressing this comment, which is not strictly true. And you CAN still get the phone, the partnership does not appear to be over.

https://murena.com/america/shop/smartphones/brand-new/murena...

Reflashing ROM puts you in a grey area with murena for the OS support, but calyx anyways appears to support the fairphone 4

https://calyxos.org/docs/guide/device-support/

Haven't quite jumped in to buy one yet but I'm thinking about it.


>> they still don't sell to the USA.

> I'm just addressing this comment, which is not strictly true. And you CAN still get the phone, the partnership does not appear to be over.

Well, if we're going to get pedantic, then I still say my original statement is true. They (being Fairphone) still don't sell to the USA. They make it very clear on their website that Fairphone is not supporting any phone bought through Murena. You have warranty issues, etc? You need to go through Murena. (And who knows how long they will last. Let's face it- such companies don't have long shelf-lives, sadly.)

So yeah, they don't sell to the USA.

Can I still get one? Yes. Through Murena, people on ebay, or other vendors that work as a go-between. That's not what I want, and there are other, potentially even better, ways of reducing e-waste. Such as buying refurbished phones.


Fairphone misleads people into believing they are a privacy pro phone. They don't provide regular updates, firmware updates aren't up to date and many more such things.

They mislead people who want to leave big tech and are privacy conscious.




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