I can sort of the the argument, if you really really need to lock down your dependencies to very specific version, which I don't recommend you do.
For development I use venv and pip, sometimes pyenv if I need a specific Python version. For production, I install Python packages with apt. The operating system can deal with upgrading minor library versions.
I really hate most other package managers, they are all to confusing and to hard to use. You need to remember to pull in library update, rebuild and release. Poetry sucks too, it's way to complicated to use.
The technical arguments against Python packages managers are completely valid, but when people bring up Maven, NPM or even Go as role models I check out. The ergonomics of those tools are worse than venv and pip. I also think that's why we put up with pip and venv, they are so much easier to use than the alternative (maybe excluding uv). If a project uses Poetry, I just know that I'm going to be spending half a day upgrading dependencies, because someone locked them down a year ago and there's now 15 security holes that needs to be plugged.
No, what Python needs is to pull in requests and a web framework into the standard library and then we can start build 50% of our projects without any dependencies at all. They could pull in Django, it only has two or three dependencies anyway.
For development I use venv and pip, sometimes pyenv if I need a specific Python version. For production, I install Python packages with apt. The operating system can deal with upgrading minor library versions.
I really hate most other package managers, they are all to confusing and to hard to use. You need to remember to pull in library update, rebuild and release. Poetry sucks too, it's way to complicated to use.
The technical arguments against Python packages managers are completely valid, but when people bring up Maven, NPM or even Go as role models I check out. The ergonomics of those tools are worse than venv and pip. I also think that's why we put up with pip and venv, they are so much easier to use than the alternative (maybe excluding uv). If a project uses Poetry, I just know that I'm going to be spending half a day upgrading dependencies, because someone locked them down a year ago and there's now 15 security holes that needs to be plugged.
No, what Python needs is to pull in requests and a web framework into the standard library and then we can start build 50% of our projects without any dependencies at all. They could pull in Django, it only has two or three dependencies anyway.