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where the F do you work when you are surrounded by “hundreds of H1Bs” - at the airport’s baggage claim when they arrive?



I think very many people are confusing H1B and straight outsourcing of talent. While there is some overlap, they are not nearly the same.

Ive worked with both, and very few of the H1bs were below average. Otherwise they aren't worth sponsoring.

There was a time in the mid 2000s when the Infosys/TCS/wiPros of the world were gaming the H1B to bring offshore bodies onshore.. but most of that died off as far as I see.


The H1B fraud from places like Infosys is alive, well, and bigger than ever.

Alive and well. https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/09/h1b_visa_fraud/

Companies caught cheating the lottery https://archive.ph/Ey3e8

Outsourcers rampant abuse https://www.infoworld.com/article/2241196/proof-that-h-1b-vi...

SV companies discriminating against Americans https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/10/07/h-1b-visa-company-sup...


You are forgetting the dimension called "time" Mr. Angry But Dense.


you’ve been working since 1776? other than immigration attorney no F’ing person has worked with “hundreds of H1Bs” so you can cut the crap


You've clearly never worked in a large tech company.


The size of company you work in doesn't matter beyond a certain fairly small size. The only way anybody could work with hundreds of people at all (and have a justified informed opinion about them) is to have a long career in a place or places with very high turnover.

Professors might hit those numbers because having informed opinions about their students is a large part of their job and they see large turnover by definition. Directors could have a chance, but even there I'd say hundreds is actually unusual, unless your standards for quality of opinion are low.

And then that's all people, not just H1-B holders.


Then call me Mr Outlier.

Because large tech companies with a large cohort of H1B + tendency to frequently reorg + career level with impact with large reach means I have indeed worked with hundreds.

Sorry bro, you don't get to deny my actual experience.


no one is buying what you are selling so you should not be selling it :)

even if you were the largest outliers on the planet you could not possibly collaborate with hundreds in a way where you get to know much about them. even if you said “tens of h1b’s” it would be a hard sell :)




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