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I am not surprised.

People don't like the fact that they actually need to be competitive in skills to get a job. Had there been no H-1Bs, they could submit a resume and immediately get a job offer!

No joke. I look around in my company, Indians and Chinese (among others) are good at their jobs and do amazing work.

Some people just don't like that. They blame not being able to get a good job offer on Indians taking away the opportunity, not themselves being good developers.

This post is the place where they can vent.






As an academic scientist in the USA, it is an amazing opportunity to work with bright people from all over the world. I feel lucky that I am from the place where this happens, and I don't personally have to travel overseas for it- but certainly would if I hadn't been from here. The scientists that come here from all over the world make discoveries that help everyone, but the companies that spin out of them usually end up US based and are a major driver of the economy. When we do hiring, it is only about 1/4 of the time or so I would say that we get a highly qualified applicant that is a US citizen.

You have had a very different experience with h1b workers then I have.

That says more about your company, and perhaps yourself, than anything else.

Companies like Google and Meta don't pay people on H1B 400k/yr just so that they walk around doing nothing.


Yes, people at Meta and Google are highly paid and highly skilled. Some more or less than others, in relation to the average, just like anywhere else. What is your example demonstrating?

>That says more about your company, and perhaps yourself, than anything else.

Why? You're simply sure the parent and the companies they work for are bad at hiring, or racist, or what? You've offered nothing but a spit in the face.


No, it means that if you find yourself surrounded by mediocre/incompetent people, it means that you aren't working at a good place and that you may be mediocre too.

It couldn't possibly be that the H1-B's that his company is hiring are bad, because his company is trying to save a buck by abusing the system, because that never happens.

You are not refuting what I said. The company is doing what it can do to maximize revenue and reduce costs. If you are working at such a company, that reflects on your skill more than anything else.

>If you are working at such a company, that reflects on your skill more than anything else.

Maybe he's so good everyone is less skilled than he is.


It's also missing the point. The verbiage around H1B is "to help employers who cannot otherwise obtain needed business skills and abilities", not artificially inflate competition for jobs. This issue was contentious even during the good times and I'm not surprised that it's flaring up during the bad times.

There are plenty of smart and excellent workers who come mainland China and India for sure but there are plenty of people who don't or come through the abuse of the program.


competition isn't artificially inflated, the competition is there all along, just arbitrary rules prevent them from seeking better life



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