"'I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,' Gallant says following an assessment at the IDF Southern Command in Beersheba."
> I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed,' Gallant says following an assessment at the IDF Southern Command in Beersheba.
How's your memory? That lasted a few days only...
And again, what about Egypt? Why aren't they being charged? They've blockaded Gaza for 16 years now, even when Gazans were working in Israel Egypt still had their blockade going...
> And again, what about Egypt? Why aren't they being charged?
Because they are not a beligerent in the conflict, and don't even currently control the Rafah crossing; Israel took it in May. Even when open, Israel exercises control over who/what goes through under the treaty.
They're also apparently smart enough not to put out "we're gonna do a war crime" video announcements over it.
Honestly the entire premise of a country defending itself from attack being required to feed those attacking them is absurd. Has it ever happened in world history to anyone that's not Israel? Ukraine certainly isn't expected to feed Russia...
> Ukraine certainly isn't expected to feed Russia...
Their troops currently occupying parts of Kursk absolutely are expected to safeguard the civilian population there. Blockading food supplies there would be a war crime.
> Ukraine certainly isn't expected to feed Russia...
You seem to have the roles reversed. Israel is behaving like russia here: occupying another country, displacing residents, saying the land should be theirs, repressing civilians, employing sexual violence and other torture, killing resisters, etc.
To your point: russia is obligated to provide food and medical supplies to civilians in occupied Ukraine, just as Israel is obligated to provide food and medical supplies to civilians in occupied Palestine.
Russia is attempting to impose a colonial occupation on Ukraine.
Israel has maintained an explicitly colonial occupation on the West Bank and the Golan Heights, and a strategic occupation of Gaza (no longer involving settlement, but for the purpose of precluding any possibility of 2SS) for more than half a century. And yes, the latter is still considered to be under Israeli occupation by the international community (from the fact that it fully controls all 7 border crossings, along with air and maritime space). Meanwhile, its politicians are openly discussing the possibility of annexing part or all of the territory.
Hamas was another part of Likud's lunatic strategy for thwarting 2SS. Until one day, inevitably, that strategy didn't work out for them as well as they had hoped.
Walling off a population into a small area so you can control the people trapped inside is an occupation via any definition that matters.
> Russia attacked Ukraine. Hamas attacked Israel. Those are the roles.
Russia and Ukraine both hold some of the others' territory. They are required by international law to protect certain rights of prisoners of war and the civilian population of those areas under their control. Russia, in particular, is known for... varying compliance with the rule.
The same is true when Hamas went into Israel; they committed clear war crimes by not treating the civilians there during their very brief occupation according to international law.
> Walling off a population into a small area so you can control the people trapped inside is an occupation via any definition that matters.
Having a wall on your border is perfectly acceptable. Gazans were even allowed to work in Israel and many did (unfortunately lots of them provided intel to Hamas for Oct 7).
And no, having a wall isn't the definition of occupation.
> Having a wall on your border is perfectly acceptable.
Sure. Israel goes further; they demolished the airport in 2002, have blockaded the port since 2007, and by treaty control access even via the Egyptian crossings (which they currently physically occupy as well).
> And no, having a wall isn't the definition of occupation.
Correct, but that wasn't my assertion. Control of the population within that wall makes it an occupation. It's the same difference between "I'm gonna wrap up in a blanket and stay in tonight" and "I'm under house arrest".
> Gazans were even allowed to work in Israel...
That doesn't necessarily make you free.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schindlerjuden "survived the years of the Nazi regime primarily through the intervention of Schindler, who afforded them protected status as industrial workers at his enamelware factory in Kraków".
I suspect we are all smart here on HN, and probably know there is a longer backstory, dating back decades: Israel attacked Palestine after Hamas attacked Israel after Israel attacked Palestine after Hamas attacked Israel after Israel attacked Palestine, etc, etc.
More to the point, both russia and Israel have engaged in occupying another country, displacing residents, saying the land should be theirs, repressing civilians, employing sexual violence and other torture, killing resisters, and that's all before Oct 7.
Indeed, both present the same pretextual justification for doing all this: the occupation, displacement, repression, sexual violence, torture, and killing we see from russia and Israel are all allegedly for self defense, and because they claim the land was theirs at some point in the past.
I’m sorry but this brazenly wrong and a form of propaganda; you need to provide evidence for your claims. Hamas-employed Gaza police shoot at gangs that rob the aid containers with the implicit protection of Israel. Many videos have been posted spuriously claiming without any evidence that the individuals highjackimg the aid “are Hamas” when all documented evidence points to the very opposite.
Just two days ago: Gangs looting Gaza aid operate in areas under Israeli control, aid groups say
“Officials said criminal looting has become the greatest impediment to distributing aid in the southern half of Gaza, home to the vast majority of displaced Palestinians. Armed bands of men have killed, beaten and kidnapped aid truck drivers in the area around Israel’s Kerem Shalom crossing, the main entry point into Gaza’s south, aid workers and transport companies said. The thieves, who have run cigarette-smuggling operations throughout this year but are now also stealing food and other supplies, are tied to local crime families, residents say. The gangs are described by observers as rivals of Hamas and, in some cases, they have been targeted by remnants of Hamas’s security forces in other parts of the enclave.”
‘An internal United Nations memo obtained by The Washington Post concluded last month that the gangs “may be benefiting from a passive if not active benevolence” or “protection” from the Israel Defense Forces. One gang leader, the memo said, established a “military like compound” in an area “restricted, controlled and patrolled by the IDF.”’
There's tons of it, plenty of mainstream media reported it while it was happening. If you choose not to believe it, that's because of your biases and no amount of hard evidence will sway you.
Also ask yourself, why has Egypt had a blockade against Gaza for longer than Israel?
Egypt is not allowed to bring any cargo into Gaza, at the behest of both Israel and the USA. They are rewarded for their compliance with international aid.
"The Rafah Border Crossing is the only crossing point between Egypt and the Gaza Strip. It is located on the international border that was confirmed in the 1979 Egypt–Israel peace treaty. Only passage of persons takes place through the Rafah Border Crossing; as such, the Egypt–Gaza border is only open to the passage of people, not of goods. All cargo traffic must go through Israel, usually through the Israeli-controlled Kerem Shalom border crossing on the Gaza–Israel barrier."
> Israel has controlled what can pass the border since 2007 or so.
"The" refers to Israel's border by normal English rules. Seems you're being deliberately obtuse.
And it's absurd to think Egypt didn't have control over their own border. Egypt didn't want Palestinians crossing for other reasons (they have a history of terrorism in moderate Muslim states).
> it's absurd to think Egypt didn't have control over their own border
Why do you hold this opinion? Israel literally controls the Rafah border crossing between Egypt and Gaza, and has bombed it several times. If Egypt and Gaza agreed to let anything pass, there's a good chance Israel would bomb it again.
Also, "[nationality/ethnic group of people] have a history of terrorism" is racist.
