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> What even counts as social media?

I think the way the EU approached this with their "digital gatekeepers" is smart. Recognize that policing the entire internet isn't possible or even desirable. Focus on those few companies with the largest capacity for harm. Different criteria might be appropriate when focusing on potential harm for children (e.g. Roblox rather than Twitter) but besides a few changes you'll probably end up with roughly the same list.

I'm not sure I'd support an outright ban, but rather very strict monitoring and requirements around moderation, in app purchasing, gambling mechanics, and so on.




Australia takes a different approach and says (in their Basic Online Safety Expectations 2024) that every online account must be linked to a phone number.

This is the same country that brought you "the laws of mathematics are very commendable but they don't apply in Australia".

I foresee a two- or three-tier Internet in the future, and Australia will probably be the first "western" country to block Tor.


> Australia will probably be the first "western" country to block Tor.

The Australian way would be to "ban" tor without any particular concern for enforceability or technical feasibility. Any actual blocking would be pushed onto industry somehow, which would then proceed to half-ass it, doing the absolute minimum possible to demonstrate they are complying with regulation.

I like Australia a lot, but a lot of the time it feels like political priority is to "make it look like something is being done". No one would actually care if the blocking worked or not unless the media made a big song and dance about it.

I also wonder how much of this ban is about "punishing" X and Meta in particular - Meta for it's refusal to pay for news and X because they didn't jump to immediately remove stuff the government wanted taken down.

> What even counts as social media?

Anything the government needs more leverage over or wants to shake down for money.


> The Australian way would be to "ban" tor without any particular concern for enforceability or technical feasibility. Any actual blocking would be pushed onto industry somehow, which would then proceed to half-ass it, doing the absolute minimum possible to demonstrate they are complying with regulation.

Just because it wouldn't be well-implemented doesn't mean it's nothing to worry about, not to mention that such things are almost always just 1 step on a path of many.


> X because they didn't jump to immediately remove stuff the government wanted taken down

Yes they did. X has always capitulated to the whims of governments.


Except that one time Elon Musk strongly disagreed with a government who wanted him to take down some Nazi stuff and got his app blocked in a whole country.

When it's about taking down left wing stuff he just complies.


Where in that document [1] [2] does it mention every online account must be linked to a phone number.

Because it mentions that an account must be linked to an email address or phone number.

Which would be the standard for almost every online service.

[1] https://www.legislation.gov.au/F2022L00062/latest/text

[2] https://www.esafety.gov.au/sites/default/files/2024-07/Basic...


> every online account must be linked to a phone number

They seem to be learning a lot from the Chinese.


South Koreans have needed an id to get online for more than a decade

Edit: actually never mind it was only active between the years 2007-2012


In a way it shouldn't be tied to size either, it should be tied to results. If a social company is clearly only interested in profit to the exclusion of societal benefits then they deserve to be regulated.




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