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"I've had this laptop since release in 2020 and I have nearly 0 complaints with it."

Me too. Only one complaint. After I accidentally spilled a cup of water into it on an airplane, it didn't work.

(However AppleCare fixed it for $300 and I had a very recent backup. :) )




If you don’t have AppleCare, it costs $1400+. M2 Pro here that I’m waiting to fix or upgrade because of that.

What’s more annoying is that I’d jus to get a new one and recycle this one, but the SSD is soldered on. Good on you for having a backup.

Do not own a Mac unless you bought it used or have AppleCare.


I've been using portable macs for the last 25 years.

Never had AppleCare or any other extended warranty program.

Did just fine up to now.


I've spilled liquid on my MacBook's once every 10 years on average. Last in 2014, then again last month. Accidents happen.

As I've noted in a sibling comment, I'll probably stop purchasing mobile Macs until the repair story on Macbooks is improved -- the risk for accidents and repairs is simply much higher on portable machines. That's only going to happen through third-party repair (which I think would simultaneously lead Apple to lower their first-party repair costs, too).


Interesting. I have found occasion to use it for pretty much every Mac I've owned since the 1980s! I'm not sure how much money it's saved compared to just paying for repairs when needed, but I suspect it may come out to:

1) a slight overall savings, though I'm not sure about that. 2) a lack of stress when something breaks. Even if there isn't an overall savings, for me it's been worth it because of that.

Certainly, my recent Mac repair would have cost $1500 and I only paid $300, and I think I've had the machine for about 3 years, so there's a savings there but considerably less recent stress. That's similar to the experience I've had all along, although this recent expense would have probably been my most-expensive repair ever.


Same here. AppleCare is just an app insurance policy. Nothing more.

I’ve underwritten my own Mac ownership since the very first Intel MacBook Pro and just like you I’ve been just fine.


"SSD is soldered on" is a bit of glossing over of the issue with the M-series Macs.

Apple is putting raw NAND chips on the board (and yes soldering them) and the controller for the SSD is part of the M-series chip. Yes, apple could use NVMe here if you ignore the physical constraints and ignore fact that it wouldn't be quite as fast and ignore the fact that it would increase their BOM cost.

I'm not saying Apple is definitively correct here, but, it's good to have choice and Apple is the only company with this kind of deeply integrated design. If you want a fully modular laptop, go buy a framework (they are great too!) and if you want something semi-modular, go buy a ThinkPad (also great!).


I need macOS for work. Now that the writing is on the wall for Hackintosh (which I used to do regularly while purchasing a Mac every few years, most recently in 2023 and 2018, because I love that choice), I don't have a choice. I used to spend 10-20 hours per third party machine for that choice.

I don't truly mind that they solder on the SSD, embed the controller into the processor -- you're right that it's great we have choice here. I mind the exuberant repair cost _on top of_ Apple's war on third party repair. Apple is the one preventing me to have choice here, I have to do the repair through them, or wait until schematics are smuggled out of China and used/broken logic boards are available so that the repair costs what it should: $300 to replace 2 chips on my logic board (still mostly labor, but totally a fair price).

I love Apple for their privacy focus and will continue to support them because I need to do Mac and iOS development, but I will likely stop buying mobile workstations from them for this reason, the risk of repair is simply much higher and not worth this situation.


I haven't had "chip failures" like that for 15+ years. Has hardware gotten more stable?


The problem is those other options won't run macOS. If the OS is a given then there's no choice.

Day to day I don't mind but when needs change or something breaks it's unfortunate to have to replace the whole machine to fix it.


I'm sure a little hot air rework can fix this right up.


Yeah, I always have AppleCare. I view it as part of the cost of a mac (or iPhone).

And yeah, this incident reminded me of why it's important to back up as close to daily as you can, or even more often during periods when you're doing important work and want to be sure you have the intermediate steps.


Mine fell off from the roof of a moving car at highway speeds and subsequently spent 30 mins being run over by cars until it was picked back up. Otherwise no complaints.




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