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It seems to have no effect on me.

Am I an outlier?




Why do you assume you're supposed to feel an immediate effect?

Increased CSF flow aids in clearing metabolic waste, distributing nutrients, and reduced oxidative stress. You'll feel none of this after a 3 minute session.

A lot of the reactions here reek of placebo.


Its very much experimental so we don't know if there are people for whom this has no impact, all the people in the studies respond so the question is whether your cerebral spinal fluid is being pumped around and flushing your brain and you don't feel an impact or whether you get no cerebral spine fluid movement at all. Someone would need to recreate this experiment with you in the MRI to find out which it is.


What is one supposed to experience or feel? Maybe my computer is too slow or my monitor is too small? I used to collect gifs that were similar to this just because they had a neat visual effect but neither those nor this image gives me any kind of experience. If I could find a private business that has an MRI I would pay cash to get a full body scan and then just a brain scan as I have always wanted one but hospitals around me want me to go through their process and give me strange looks when I just want to pay cash and be scanned. I think it would be interesting to see what effect assorted images have. There was another type of scanner, I forgot what it was called ... that would show a 3D image of the brain during activity and would show when parts of the brain that should be responding are not. In that study it was used primarily on kids/teens that were prone to crime. I can not remember what it was called. This was quite some time ago. The patient would have many wires attached to their head. It would effectively show animated holes so to speak when part of a persons brain was not functioning correctly due to physical trauma, drugs, etc...


After focussing on the dot for a few seconds the images appear to produce a tunnel or other change in effect from just images flipping, maybe a moving star. Then when the grey image appears you get an after effect of the overall image for about a second. Some feel a form of pressure or even light seizure sensation in the brain and have auditory experience like there was a sound that disappears each time the grey clearing screen appears.Then afterwards some people feel a bit cognitively fatigued, drunk even for a few minutes to hours.

It feels odd, its hard to describe it feels like something weird is happening in the brain.


Interesting. So I do get the over-shadow effect for about 1.5 seconds but I get that from any bright light that transitions to a grey background mostly from taking high dose benfotiamine, along with lutein and astaxanthin and chelated copper as my nervous system was being depleted of thiamine due to a dumb self induced issue that I have nearly resolved. Maybe I am not a good test subject for that reason. Or perhaps my monitor is too bright.

Edit: I reduced the brightness, contrast and changed the black mode of the monitor and went through several cycles. I still get the over-shadow effect for anywhere from 1.5 to 2 seconds but no other effects. Perhaps my supplements are interfering or confounding. I guess it may be useful to note what supplements the test subject is consuming along with dosage to determine if that is a confounding factor.


I don't feel anything either. Not sure why


The places that specialize in full body scans will do it for cash. I think technically you need a script for any MRI, so you may still need to speak with a doctor ar their facility first. My understanding is it's more streamlined there and will be way cheaper than any hospital. If you talk to your primary or can get a telemedicine appointment online then they might be willing to write you the script and you can go to a local MRI. I would avoid the hospital as they are 5x higher in cost than my local outpatient imaging facility.


I think technically you need a script for any MRI

I'm in the US. I am guessing a script is the same thing wherever you are as what is called a referral here. I will ask around. Thankyou for the idea. I will research what outpatient imaging facilities are around me. Would they use some kind of mirror system to watch this image? I can't imagine a PC could be near the MRI.


"script" is "prescription" (here in US and possibly elsewhere). Imaging techniques generally require them because medicine considers the potential harm of giving patients an inconclusive diagnosis or a conclusive diagnosis for which there's no treatment. Without a symptom to weigh against these risks, it makes some sense to consider them as not "over the counter".

But in practice I think you can show up at any imaging center and get some kind of "full body MRI" to screen for cancer or some other risk. They'll probably ask about family history and other predispositions but even if you didn't have those they'd still take your money.


I will give that a shot. A family member was a signalman for the railroad for over 40 years and got melanoma back when there was no treatment for it. Perhaps that may suffice.


Maybe try it again at the end of the workday?


I tried it again several hours later, being more tired, and on my 22" fullscreen instead of my phone.

Still nothing.


Try lying down and then watching the screen.




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