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Unfortunately people love to complain about ads, but rarely actually get their wallets out when an alternative payment method is presented. Case in point: the frequent archive.org links to get around paywalls.



you mean archive.is?


No, I meant archive.org's wayback machine, but there are other tools out there with the same function.

https://web.archive.org


I think you may be a little confused. most people, particularly on HN, use archive.is for this purpose.

for example this comment on the current top post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41961894

in fact I don't think I've ever seen archive.org used to jump paywalls. it's not designed for it


That's sickening, honestly.

IA is a tool to help you access websites that literally can't be accessed ever again otherwise. It's a noble and beautiful project.

Some people use it just to get free stuff, to commit piracy, to infringe upon copyright. It's a perversion of what it was meant for.


Piracy is a service problem. A paywall literally says “you might like this but pay me first to see what it is.” Substack has a “let me read it first” button and I’ve never seen an archive link to that even though there are plenty of private articles.

The concept of gift links exists, but these websites footaxe themselves by limiting their most viral content —- ostensibly the best and cheapest marketing they could get, down the drain.

You’re right. It is sickening.


Substack's "let me read it first" is just a way to close the subscription popup, it has nothing to do with reading otherwise paywalled content.

The thing is, having had some of my own content "go viral" before - it's not worth much. Most people will read it for a minute and move on. A tiny percentage will subscribe and an even tinier percentage will give you any money. So from the point of view of a creator, it makes a ton of sense to put up paywalls on things – but only once you've already gotten a bit of an audience and distribution method figured out.


> Substack's "let me read it first" is just a way to close the subscription popup, it has nothing to do with reading otherwise paywalled content.

It has everything to do with telegraphed intention of not having content be gratis. The fact that you cannot even mentally keep the idea of subscription gates in the same bucket as paywalls says a lot.


No, not really. It's mostly just a typical CTA for getting email subscribers. Plenty of completely free newsletters have popups like that.

PS: using a new green account to make snarky put-downs isn't welcome on HN. Make a point or don't make it, but do it without those.


It doesn't matter how you rationalize your acts, the fact you're abusing IA's infrastructure doesn't change.

To me, you burned a hospital bed to send a message that capitalism is bad. I don't care what your opinion is. You burned the bed.


What? I’m pretty sure people are talking about archive.is and not archive.org here.




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