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> - something concrete on robotaxi, not likely

Nor will you see one for another couple years, minimum.

> - current model refresh, they are getting old

Model 3 just got a refresh a few months ago. Agreed that Model S/X are due, though.

> - supposedly next gen cheaper car in late 2025

Which likely actually means mid 2027.




Model Y refresh “Juniper” is imminent, a few have already rolled off the factory line.




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