First answer in Google says that cooked carrots and baked potatoes are processed. But I'm supposed to take your definition over what is available elsewhere? In addition frozen broccoli is processed. This is coming from Harvard Health Publishing and UCLA Health. Are they all insane?
Would you move on if I replace "not processed" with "minimally processed" and "processed" with "ultra processed"?
You're not some harbinger of truth if we do that.
In fact, it's pretty evil (idc if you're Harvard, UCLA, or a commenter on HN) to argue over whether or not you can distinguish between a cooked carrot or an Oreo.
Which brings me back to my original point. That educated spaces need a study or even just a link to an authoritative source to accept even the most basic point. Here's a Harvard link for you: https://nutritionsource.hsph.harvard.edu/processed-foods/
Hope that's satisfactory for you. LMK if you need a UCLA or Stanford link.
> Would you move on if I replace "not processed" with "minimally processed" and "processed" with "ultra processed"?
I think it would still be better to not mention "processing", because it's not about the "processing", it's about what is there in the end foods that can cause issues. So I would say that excessive consumption of foods loaded with unhealthy fats, sugars and artificial preservatives, flavor enhancers are bad for you". It's bad to eat too many fats, sugars, calories in general and not enough fruits, vegetables which contain ingredients that your body needs to properly function. If you want to use a circular word you can also just use "unhealthy foods", not "processed foods".
> In fact, it's pretty evil (idc if you're Harvard, UCLA, or a commenter on HN) to argue over whether or not you can distinguish between a cooked carrot or an Oreo.
I'm not arguing about that. I'm arguing about what is healthy and what is not. Processing food inherently doesn't make it unhealthy.
"not enough fruits, vegetables which contain ingredients that your body needs to properly function."
Is orange juice a fruit? There, take some of your own medicine lol.
In all seriousness, if you're not convinced ultra processed foods are bad for you as a rule, there's nothing I can do except throw a bunch of studies at you, which I've already argued is insane for such a basic and common sense concept
I know you probably will take great issue with "common sense", but most people I know, don't. That's why it's common lol
And presumably you've already seen lots of these studies so I don't even know why we're arguing something that makes sense and is also backed up by many studies (though a large proportion of these studies are likely to be garbage)
> Is orange juice a fruit? There, take some of your own medicine lol.
I'm not sure what you are trying to imply here? That it is? Orange juice is not a fruit, it's a juice derived from a fruit. Which is healthy in moderation, but definitely not enough alone to cover all the optimal ingredients you would get from a variance of different fruits.
> In all seriousness, if you're not convinced ultra processed foods are bad for you as a rule, there's nothing I can do except throw a bunch of studies at you, which I've already argued is insane for such a basic and common sense concept
I'm not convinced because it all depends on how it was exactly processed and the amounts.
