...it would also be nice if Debian (Ubunutu and other derivitives) stop shitting on pip in some ridiculous paranoid attempt to stop breaking apt packages (that don't break apt packages anyway) or because of "muh security".
Huh? Messing with the system Python install absolutely can break your system.
Just use venvs, or install separate Python versions for development e.g. via pyenv. You likely don't want to use the relatively outdated Python version shipped with Debian anyways.
