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How many times a week do you walk or bike to buy groceries? If it's one or less, you lack perspective in this space.

Anyone who has been nearly hit by a car while walking understands why violence is the correct term.

Secondly, your chart seems to be looking at motorist fatalities rather than pedestrian deaths caused by motor vehicles. This is what you want: https://www.iihs.org/topics/fatality-statistics/detail/pedes...

Of course if pedestrians are just an another inconvenience in front of your windshield, it's all hysterics.


I've almost been hit by a car. I was crossing the street, they were turning left and failed to yield. Missed me by inches. I would NOT use the term traffic violence. At least not for that incident. It isn't the correct term. Draper the fact they knew I was there, and they were impatient. The word "violence" has a connotation that doesn't fit here.


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Here's some normalized data (pedestrian deaths to VMT) on Figure 5, page 12. Unfortunately it only goes back to 2016 and not 1975: https://www.ghsa.org/sites/default/files/2024-06/2023%20Pede...

And on page 10 of this NHTSA report (DOT HS 813 435), it shows that the proportion of nonoccupant fatalities have been increasing: https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/Publication/8134...


Everything these days seems be some sort of violence.

I'd like a future where we're less car reliant, I think modern vehicles are dangerous to pedestrians - that does not make this some sort of violence however - violence implies an intent, and I dont think there is any provable intent here.


Vehicles are safer than ever, for passengers and pedestrians. If you look it up, cars are actually safer than horses. Never before has automatic braking or alerts been an option.

"Violence" does imply an intent. It's CRAZY to try to associate car accidents with acts of violence, or cars with weapons. It's an attempt to push an agenda by creating a victimhood narrative, because the facts are not supportive of getting rid of cars or drastically changing them. The victim/violence narrative can bypass logical argument in the minds of some people. It's very stupid and dishonest but apparently these people don't care about the truth.


Or label a crisis.


As someone who walks everywhere and has had near misses. I can only hear "traffic violence" as yet another propagandistic newsspeak.




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