I ended up reading through this whole line of holepunch stuff, and as much as I love almost all of it in idea, spirit, quality of work, the only way to run in browser or mobile is an entire REMAKE of nodejs they call "bare"

Sounds like a nightmare that would take forever. However all that gleam and bun and deno kind of makes it sound like its possible i guess.

I get sad when great tech is never adopted. What is the equivalent of civil war in the tech world where people need to be pushed so hard to consider changing anything? Its like the full government crackdown on eliminating encryption has to happen before we even start trying p2p

You are spot on. We already have the technology. It's a bunch of idiots mucking around with stuff like IPFS.

If there was a real need for it, P2P adoption would occur very quickly.

p2p is alive and well in the form of netcode

https://github.com/ThusSpokeNomad/GameNetworkingResources

Could be, it's quite a while since I talked to Paul about it and we only discussed it briefly.

There's also Cabal.chat which works based on similar tech