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These are things people are already doing in native app code, so we've got to have some web equivalents or everyone's going to be doing everything in walled gardens.



I agree, God forbid a native do something better than a web app. Let's make web dev even more complicated, I was just saying how simple it is currently


how you personally feel about it is irrelevant, I would personally prefer the web to stay simple too

but this isn't realistic — the places most people spend their time online are in native apps, if the web doesn't at least pretend to keep pace this will only get worse


The web doesn't need to be anything more than a document delivery program. You thinking it needs to be an app delivery system is a deep error in judgement


the web right now is more than a document delivery program... the genie is out of the bottle

this is like saying usenet is all the social media we need... it might be aspirational, and it might be right, but it's not reality


people seem to forget that computers exist, and these things call programs exist, that can execute on computers, even if a browser is not even installed on the computer


indeed, but again this does not track with the way things are currently working


Obviously you don't know what a VPS is




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