As a competitor, let's add that they are ad company too.

bad_user · 2024-08-30T14:19:21 1725027561

Name one browser that isn't funded by ads.

Even the minor browsers, pretending to not be funded by ads at this point (while the VC capital is drying up) depend on one of the 3 browser engines, all of which are funded by ads.

gkbrk · 2024-08-30T16:27:49 1725035269

Ladybird is funded entirely through donations, and doesn't depend on one of the 3 browser engines.

bad_user · 2024-09-01T06:00:39 1725170439

Ladybird is vaporware at this point.

zimpenfish · 2024-08-30T14:22:59 1725027779

> Name one browser that isn't funded by ads.

Safari? Unless you're going to say that Apple gets the money for Safari through ads which, y'know, technically correct but disingenuous in this context, surely.

bad_user · 2024-08-30T14:38:14 1725028694

Google is paying Apple 20 billion per year in their search deal, which is 40 times more than what Mozilla takes.

Safari is funded ENTIRELY by Google's ads, also making a profit, and this is a fact. We can entertain a counterfactual, maybe Safari would still be funded without Google funding it with billions, but that's not the world we live in today.

And given Apple's reluctance to advance the web, going against their other cash cows, it's disingenuous to suggest otherwise. I recommend reading this opinion: https://infrequently.org/2022/06/apple-is-not-defending-brow...