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There’s always a mountain of code on top of the cloud provider.



Yes but that code isn't typically running in production the way k8s is. Having a lot of terraform is just a fancy method of statically provisioning infrastructure. The code is gone once it applies. Bringing k8s into the mix is a whole other application layer that's providing services to your code. Things like sgs for pods, cni plugins, coredns, is code that wouldn't be there in a non k8s world.

Your problems now include k8s networking as well as VPC networking.


> The code is gone once it applies

Until you need to update a change or upgrade something or patch a security issue. The most dangerous code is code that doesn't run often. Like backup restores. Ticking time bombs unless you're really careful.

> Bringing k8s into the mix is a whole other application layer that's providing services to your code. Things like sgs for pods, cni plugins, coredns, is code that wouldn't be there in a non k8s world.

The same applies to everything running around your tech stack that you didn't write. That includes the language runtime, the compiler, the operating system, all OS libraries you use, and the libraries your app imports. The ship has sailed and K8S isn't much of an addition.

I haven't hit a CNI bug in probably 5 years and that was only on Amazon's horrible CNI code. I've hit a ton of bugs in my software stack. And the libraries I depend on. And my deployment stack. And my cross-service networking stack at the application layer.


Furthermore, there's always a mountain of code aggregating heterogeneous systems into a uniform interface. Look at the linux kernel, or LLVM, or pretty much any other (successful) project that provides abstractions to many different backends.




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