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> X already has been happening and yet life is just fine

The OP doesn't say life isn't fine. He says that if we don't aim for perfection, if art ceases to matter because we cease to truly care, then there's no point. We'll eat shit and reproduce just the same -- but there is no point.

He's got a point.



What do you think about mediocrity?

https://www.ribbonfarm.com/series/mediocratopia/

I’m fascinated by mediocrity as an aspiration, understood as optimization resistance and withheld reserves. Mediocrity is slouching towards survival. Mediocrity is pragmatic resistance to totalizing thought. Mediocrity is fat in the system. Mediocrity is playful, foxy improvisation.


It makes sense to some, but this is how you lose Leonard da Vinci before he even gets started.

I sill enjoy resistance, reserves, survival, pragmatics, fat buffers and improvisation better without any mediocrity I would say.


Everything in moderation, including totalizing thought and mediocrity


I just think these are the thoughts of old people.

The creative mediums of the day are tiktok videos and video games.

It is the same line of thought from back in the day that the electric guitar is just noise, people should play a "real" instrument like the clarinet!

Rap is just noise, they aren't even singing! People should play a "real" instrument like the electric guitar.

Tiktok is not art! I am talking "real" art like Marcel Duchamp or Andy Warhol's movie Sleep. No one is making REAL art like that anymore I tell ya.


> Rap is just noise, they aren't even singing

> Tiktok is not art

These two sentiments aren't that uncommon amongst gen z either, in my experience.


I think your point is going to be lost on people who view art as a commodity to be consumed. From that point of view, replacing the artist with a machine can only result in a loss, if the person consuming the art could tell the difference in the first place. If not, then who cares if a machine or a person tuned the piano, etc?


This is such an all-or-nothing thought. We can aim for "better", or even just "good enough", without aiming for absolute perfection or mediocrity, and things will still keep getting better.

His point is excessively perfectionistic at best, to the point of detriment, and at worst... well, it's pedantic.


Not really, he isn’t accounting for variation in skill level in his anecdote. If this piano tuner is just average for his profession, which seems likely, then the piano is still out of tune to the top 20% of discerning musicians, aficionados and expert piano tuners. The problem is there’s only a very small amount of that skill to go around so the majority of concert hall pianos are going to stay imperfectly tuned. The bigger problem is with the author’s assertion that a robotic piano tuner must necessarily be worse than a human. Maybe the currently available electronic tuners are but that they remain so isn’t a given, it’s more likely that they could be better but it would simply cost too much to achieve that level of performance at the moment. With sufficiently cheap electronics and intelligence it may eventually be possible to sell an automatic piano tuner to every piano owner that far exceeds any human’s ability. Is that not a valid way to achieve perfection?


> the majority of concert hall pianos are going to stay imperfectly tuned.

Any "important" concert hall will tune the piano before each concert. If there is no concert for months the piano will sit untuned (but still be practiced on), but a piano tuner is cheap insurance that nothing happened. If there are two concerts on the same day they might or might not tune between them.

Of course there are a lot of "small-town" concert halls where the piano is not tuned as often. Your local high school probably isn't tuning the piano before the concert - even though the piano is moved from the choir room to the stage before the concert which is the most likely way to mess up tuning.


They said the piano will be imperfectly tuned even when it was tuned just now, if the job was done by an average-skilled tuner.




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