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[flagged] Elon Musk uses his X social media platform to amplify right-wing views (pbs.org)
22 points by jrepinc 8 months ago | hide | past | favorite | 21 comments



Just like Bezos and the mainstream media use their platform to amplify left wing views?


This is why it's getting annoying to see this sort of headline. "Nobody should own the public square... Unless it's a cadre of young San Francisco leftists who represent one of the most extreme left factions in the country. They should own the public square."


Wait, Bezos like Jeff Bezos?former owner of Amazon Jeff Bezos? Since when has Jeff Bezos been left wing? His political contribution history is mostly to Republicans.


I think they're deducing that from Bezos's ownership of the Washington Post, which is (very mildly) progressive (left of the establishment median). I don't know that Bezos has himself really indicated much about his own political preferences nor does he exert strong editorial control over the Po.


The "How Elon Musk uses his X social media platform to amplify right-wing views" question seems be be answered that he personally tweets some right wing stuff and chats to right leaning people.

Anyone is entitled to voice their opinions. I thought there would be stuff about algorithmically benefiting one side but there's nothing of that in the article.


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"X is a platform without censorship" - not what I've witnessed.

What about Chad Loder? Vishal Pratap Singh?

https://theintercept.com/2022/11/29/elon-musk-twitter-andy-n...


You mean the violent antifa members Vishal and Chad who broke X rules against?

I don't know about you but instigating violence and threatening people like Andy Ngo for simply reporting on antifa violence is worthy of a ban on that platform.


The former president instigated a violent insurrection, and now he’s back and getting interviewed by the platform owner. Alex Jones spent years harassing parents of murdered children and he’s back as well. The list of reinstated right wingers who very obviously violated platform policy goes on and on.


> X is a platform without censorship or any boosting of particular political views unlike traditional MSM and left leaning platforms like Google, Meta, YC even.

Hmmm, I haven’t seen this supported by the data, in fact Elon Musk has said that X is censoring more voices.


Feel free to provide examples next time you want to counter points. It will be more credible to third party.

I'm not sure I would call offering interview to the opposing political side like Kamala is censorship.

Most people would see that Musk is trying to give both candidates equal platform, something that Google and Meta has actively rejected openly.


>> All this sort of blatant censorship and bias for the left wing politics is push the center towards the right.

This is biased and untrue claim.


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There has never been a widely popular far-left platform in the US. The Democratic platform is maybe slightly left of center.


Overton window in US is shifted so far right, that while Democrats in 2024 have position on migration similar to one that Republicans had in 2016 - Republicans in 2024 talk about deportations.

What you call 'extreme left' would be considered 'center right' in Europe.


This. There is no "extreme left" in the US in terms of an organized and politically effective force, and there hasn't been for decades.


Don't make the same mistake we did, it cost us 40 years.


I don't think this is entirely true, it's more that there are areas where the US would be viewed as more left-wing on average than Europe and areas where it's more right-wing.

For instance, the US has legal gay marriage when it's still banned in some European countries and legal marijuana when it's only decriminalised in most of Europe. DEI is also bigger in the US, and so are ideas like defunding the police, reparations (for slavery or colonisation), etc which don't get as much traction in Europe.

On the other hand a lot of the traditional left-wing ideas like heavy state intervention, actual socialism, workers' rights are bigger in Europe and several countries have actual communist parties with parliamentary representation.

But then again, most European countries are states for a specific ethnic group which would absolutely not fly in America, Canada, Australia etc. For instance, German right of return lets anyone of ethnic German descent from Eastern Europe claim German citizenship.


And don’t forget revocation of birthright citizenship! (Ugh.)


I am from Europe and I really don't think the "US left = European center right" is accurate at all. People keep repeating it but you would be shocked who got voted into the EU parliament and is considered "centre right" - they also talk about deportation, they actually built a wall, and they actually shoot at people trying to get through the border.

Let me remind you that EU actually does deport people all the time in practice - US is considered very "illegal friendly" by our standards, as it's practically impossible to live like that here due to all the necessary bureaucracy and approvals to have basics such as healthcare, employment, bank account and payment card (necessary as cash payments are limited to small amounts - you can't even buy a car with cash legally), a place to live... While a not uncommon practice in the US. Nobody here understands that you can actually get "legalized" after/during an illegal stay in the US - it's impossible around here, being illegal puts a permanent black mark on your passport.

There is an entire police department just for dealing with foreigners and catching and deporting illegal residents. All foreigners must register with that department, renew their registration regularly by personal visit on the police station, show up at the station when they are randomly summoned, allow the police inside their residence for a random check - and the police will actually check things like - is your wife actually your wife or is it a trick, are you actually working where you said you work, are you housing more people than you should and what's their status, etc. All foreigners must keep their address of residence and contact information updated, and just having that wrong can be enough to get deported - and it will happen, sooner or later, even if they find out years later and you have corrected the mistake in the meantime.

All this is nothing new, it's always been this way. It's one of the major reasons why the US is taken as land of freedom - the ability to just come in and work there, with personal rights much closer to what the citizens get, is a freedom that we ourselves don't offer, EU states require you and your employer to prove they tried and couldn't find someone local first; and good luck without an employer sponsoring you - you can't get health insurance and bank account without an employer in my country (with an exception for students).

And half the EU has a very bad opinion about anything resembling socialism.


If Trump’s rule in the 2010’s is an example of extreme left politics, we’re in trouble.


This repeated pearl-clutching from the media is getting tiresome. They're acting like X itself is a problem now, as a whole, in theory. But they loved Twitter...?

No one seemed to think twice when Twitter was using its social media platform to amplify left wing views. Not just left, but one of the furthest and most fringe left parts of the country, San Francisco.

America has a natural memetic immune system that precludes things like being a Nazi from public life, but it has no such immune system for the extremist left, some versions of which did many times the damage of the holocaust in the second half of the 20th century, the half we don't really learn about. Don't believe me? Walk down the street wearing a swastika and a hammer & sickle and see which one gets you attacked faster.

We need to develop some memetic antibodies quickly.


Well actually, the data shows that Twitter has always amplified right wing views, they’re just more honest about it now.

https://www.newsweek.com/twitter-reveals-algorithm-amplified...




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