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Does that company hire or recruiter hire h1b? In order to get h1b approval, you have to make the case that "we interviewed x,000 people andwe just can't find any qualified applicants! ". I'm starting to suspect that the industry has learned to set salaries low and churn enough applicants in order to reduce costs. One way to churn them is to do a phone screen and find a quick way to legally get rid of them. Then once you get the type of applicant you want - that happens to work for 20% less and never complains because his foreign residency is tied to his employer - simply don't ask them the question.


This has been going on for decades.

1. Find H1B candidate you want to hire.

2. Write job requirements matching that candidate’s experience so well it’s very unlikely for anyone else to meet those requirements.

3. Advertise position to meet legal requirements and reject any candidates not exactly matching requirements.

4. Hire H1B candidate.


Note that #3 is one of the "let's see how far we can bend that definition" things too. You will occasionally see this listed in a local newspaper classified postings ( https://imgur.com/W76Jdbn is one such example).


The worst, most bad-faith case I've seen of "advertising" an H1B job was of the job posting printed out, taped to the back of an interior office door, and covered by the recruiter's hanging overcoat.


This has been going until 2014 or so.

Later for serious candidates it got completely unpractical, because H1B lottery got too filled with companies mass hiring Indians, that no serious company will spend time on hiring you given they have 20-30% chance of actually being able to get you into US.

So now only H1B hiring you have is mass hiring, where company does not care if you or someone else gets through lottery, as long as they'll get their 20-30% of candidates through.


This is sometimes done by asking for five years of experience in a library that has only existed for three. Don’t bother applying at companies like that if you’re not on a visa.


[reference needed] - I read a study from a few years ago suggesting that H1B Visa hires on average get paid more than hires from inside the US.


As it's an actual requirement to publish the salary for an H1B employee as part of LCA disclosures, the data is collated every year, it's no secret what anyone on an H1B earns (if you are on an H1B you can often find your own individual record in here):

https://h1bdata.info/

My own take; its complicated. From my own direct experiences, there is a world of difference between how large companies typically use the H1B (The Microsoft/Apple/Metas) etc and how say a medium sized fortune 500 company IT department might typically use it. There are absolutely ways to abuse the process and they types of jobs being worked on an H1B very enormously in type, quality and salary - just explore the data above. The larger companies pretty much always do hire on same terms as any other American. At smaller companies, can be a lottery.

Salary isn't the only means of exploiting an H1B hire either, to be clear. Lots of other tricks like slow walking immigration processes, exploiting the fact it is harder for an H1B employee to change job than a citizen. The being skipped over for a promotion to avoid paperwork issues with the LCA etc is something I've seen first hand.


Thank you for this link :)


H1B should not exist in an overly saturated job market like this one. Most H1B don't do anything so specific that the company truly couldn't find someone in the US to replace them. Most of them are writing Web Services. Not creating the next AI, Distributed Ledger, etc.


For employers they’re desired, H1Bs are taking a lot of abuse and rarely leave because they’re tied to the job. And are paid a lot less so company saves $$$


Is that including lower job titles for the same jobs, education, and years of experience?

H1B’s sometimes get skipped over for promotions specifically because it would mess with the paperwork. Which across an industry would definitely mess with these statistics.


That’s a requirement of a h1b in fact.


It’s a nominal requirement, but a little research shows how you can work around it.




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