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For European racism, just bring up the Roma and wait for a European to say things that no one in any American city would say.


It's different.

Europeans are proud of hating gypsies, we just don't bring this up around Americans because of how poorly they react when we show them our point of view. Racism and pedophilia are two most sensitive topics for Americans, who feel like they're on the holy mission to free the world from these two evils.


> Europeans are proud of hating gypsies

What are even talking about? Please don't extrapolate your own views on the population of a whole continent.


If you’re ever “proud” of hating someone, you should go see a therapist. (Or a priest.)


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It’s possible to criticize culture without being racist or resorting to virulent, gleeful hate. Have you met any actual Romani aside from the occasional panhandler? You’d think Europeans would welcome the ones that try to escape their culture, and yet they face roadblocks and discrimination along every step of the way. Instead of hate, why not try a little empathy or even pity for people born into unfortunate circumstances? Your mentality is despicable, period, even without the American racial lens. (And for what it’s worth, I was born in Europe and am very much familiar with this bullshit first hand.)

So feel free to continue nodding and smiling. We can see right through it. Rest assured that it reflects far more poorly on you than the Romani, whatever their flaws may be.


> why not try a little empathy or even pity for people born into unfortunate circumstances?

Because this comes at a societal cost we cannot afford. Simple.


This kind of thinking is how we got the Holocaust.


So you just smile and nod, but inside you think "American racism may be bad, but our racism is true and based on evidence"?

I mean, look, if you want to condemn Romani culture, sure, I can at least listen. (There are some in the US who think "all cultures are equally good"; I am not among them.) But if you want to condemn Romani because of their race or ethnicity, and say there's "some truth to the racism", then I'm going to condemn you as a racist. And to the degree that's part of your culture, I'm going to condemn your culture.

And yes, that's not negotiable.


> And yes, that's not negotiable.

This is also why I'm very skeptical of modern progressivism. It's not like people became more aware, because they still have a set of beliefs they don't question, it's just that those beliefs changed. Which means that they might, and probably will, change again in the future. If it took 60 years to go from "racism is best" to "racism is the worst" without any fundamental change to how we create our social norms, then it's not outrageous to claim that within another 60 years we might go back to "racism is best".


You know, PG said you can disagree with downvotes but if someone says something that they honestly believe and not just to make controversy I think I'd rather upvote them so I can see the post.

So up you go.




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