> The Ukrainian aircraft industry was indeed interesting, but it was all about cargo planes
Not exclusively, they had the An-148/158 regional civilian airliners (and related An-178 military cargo jet). They definitely had catching up to do (the An-148/158 didn't perform really well, in large part due to issues with the supply chain which was part Ukrainian, part Russian, and the war(s) between the two complicated things a lot), but there was a good base on which to build.
> I wonder where Embraer fits in your picture.
They're the only ones that can do it, but probably won't because they don't have the capital and there's the example of Bombardier which bankrupted themselves trying to make a new short to medium haul airliner.
Wasn’t bombardiers failure the result of Boeing playing dirty and pulling political strings? The commerce department imposed tariffs that quadrupled the price of the plane.
I mean, Bombardier was selling the planes below cost, which is the technical definition of dumping.
Part of why they had to do it is because they had so many testing issues and delays with their new design that people were not willing to bite the bullet on an unproven design.
> I mean, Bombardier was selling the planes below cost, which is the technical definition of dumping
Nope, it's not unheard of in aviation because a plane, or an engine, has a multi-decade life, over which there will be a lot of maintenance and spare parts needed.
GE and Rolls-Royce used to sell jet engines at a loss, banking on maintenance and spare parts making up the losses.
And of course, the punitive tariffs were later removed because Boeing weren't actually impacted by the C-series, dumping or not.
Not exclusively, they had the An-148/158 regional civilian airliners (and related An-178 military cargo jet). They definitely had catching up to do (the An-148/158 didn't perform really well, in large part due to issues with the supply chain which was part Ukrainian, part Russian, and the war(s) between the two complicated things a lot), but there was a good base on which to build.
> I wonder where Embraer fits in your picture.
They're the only ones that can do it, but probably won't because they don't have the capital and there's the example of Bombardier which bankrupted themselves trying to make a new short to medium haul airliner.