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I think all of these approaches are not "or" but are instead "and" ...

We need both PV solar and "let's get some heat" solar; we need LiFePO4 and nmc batteries; we probably even need to keep fossil fuels and biodiesel and other biogas.

Every little incremental bit helps... It's a race between turning into venus and turning into mad max's thunderdome.



> It's a race between turning into venus and turning into mad max's thunderdome.

It is hard to tell how serious you are in that comment, but just in case, worrying about runaway greenhouse gas effect turning Earth into another Venus is climate hysteria.

Poorly thought out energy policies due to climate hysteria have a good chance at creating considerable political unrest though (not sure about "thunderdome" level of unrest).

Turns out when you restrict access to energy (e.g., by increasing its cost), people get upset.


I like how mad Max thunderdome is a given at this point and the env work is just to prevent Venus #2


> the env work is just to prevent Venus #2

There is no science-based predictions that climate change as we understand it today, will lead to Venus #2. That idea is just fodder for climate hysteria and sci-fi fantasy films.


We've got only a very limited understanding of exactly how the current climate works. We have (and have had for a very long time) crude understanding that more CO2 == more energy from the sun retained == more hotter overall.

We've got a Chesterton's fence here with our existing climate as it was between a long time ago and 1940. Sure, sometimes it gets too cold and sometimes it gets too hot, but it's mostly something we've gotten used to.

Once we get into a situation where all sorts of enormous systems with enormous inertia get out of whatever balance they've been in until now change, we're off into radically uncharted territory. It's not something we should gleefully jump into just to see what happens.

We're dancing on a cliff in the fog, we may even be wile e coyote dancing on a cloud.

"mad max" is "turn off all fossil fuels"

"venus" is an example of what can happen with too much CO2 in the air

One of those is actually a fictional thought experiment, the other's actually quite real. The magnitude of how bad the real one is is pretty terrible.. I guess I should just trust you that we can't possibly become venus; is 1/100th of venus tolerable?

"Between madmax and venus" is the path we (civilized, happy people) need to follow over the next 100 years. Hopefully it's a pretty broad path.


The Earth, without humans, has had much higher CO2 levels in the past and yet it isn't like Venus.




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