> IntelliJ's expensive bloatware

I am pretty sure the free Community Edition is still much better than Eclipse.

Maybe when they finally support JNI development instead of sticking us with a CLion license.

That, an incremental Java compiler that isn't just using the one from Eclipse, not indexing every couple of minutes, and no 10 finger chord shortcuts.

Looks like yor impression of IDEA is from around 15 years ago.

I see it regularly in Android Studio, sadly.

Please prove the audience how to do JNI in InteliJ, without an additional Clion license.

Not a lame plugin, rather the same experience as Eclipse, Netbeans, or the one that Google has paid for on Android Studio.

Is there really an IntelliJ iDea (Ultimate) Community Edition outside of Android Studio?

I’ve also tried to use their products but by the time I need to, my 30-day has already expired so I just stick with Eclipse and VSCode.

There is "IntelliJ IDEA Community Edition", completely free forever. It's missing a few features compared to Ultimate, most notably the web development bits.

Ultimate is paid, community is separate. You still get plenty https://www.jetbrains.com/products/compare/?product=idea&pro...

> IntelliJ's (...) bloatware

This isn't something I hear everyday. Care to explain?

I think it's a complaint of JetBrains IDEs loving to eat memory (and possibly having a large install size), which is true, although historically Eclipse, NetBeans and others have also had a similar reputation, with Eclipse also being modular to the point where some people's opinion of it has been soured due to bad tools built on top of it, as well as an arguably awkward workflow at times.

Then again, it's all probably relative - most IDEs (including the likes of Visual Studio) are slow compared to something like Lazarus, VS Code can feel slow compared to Sublime or Vim but whether that matters much is up to the reader. Personally, I like the features that JetBrains tools have, and those are more or less my daily drivers (I pay for the Ultimate package of all tools, alongside GitKraken, MobaXTerm and some other software), others might differ in that aspect.

That said, I don't think that JetBrains Fleet is quite as good as VS Code yet, so I use VSC for my more lightweight editing needs or on lower spec devices, sometimes also dropping down to Notepad++/Gedit or Nano for simple text/config files as well.

I mean you still use Java, so you seem to really like sticking to your tools!

I love programming in Java!

I also still breathe air. What's your point? Java is a useful language with many excellent features and a standard library that is better than any other standard library in any other language (fight me on this). It has a thriving ecosystem, with many excellent high quality resources.