I have been full stack for the last decade. Vanilla JS and server-side rendering is about all I can tolerate these days. I will reach for Ajax or websockets if needed, but 90%+ of all interactions I've ever had to deal with are aptly handled with a multipart form post.
I do vendor my JS, but only for things like PDF processing, 3D graphics, and barcode scanning.
I've been through the framework gauntlet. Angular, RiotJS, React, Blazor, AspNetCore MVC, you name it. There was a time where I really needed some kind of structure to get conceptually bootstrapped. After a while, these things begin to get in the way. Why can't I have the framework exactly my way? Just give me the goddamn HttpContext and get off my lawn. I don't need a babysitter to explain to me how to interpolate my business into an html document string anymore.
I also now understand why a lot of shops insist on separation between frontend and backend. It seems to me that you have to be willing to dedicate much of your conscious existence to honing your skills if you want to be a competent full stack developer. It can't just be your 9-5 job unless you are already highly experienced and have a set of proven patterns to work with. Getting someone off the street to that level can be incredibly expensive and risky. Once you know how to do the whole thing, you could just quit and build for yourself.
Build what? Sell to whom? What, write my own subscription/billing module, on top of full stack development which, as you said, takes a lot of time just to be competent at. on top of building it, do sales and marketing and accounting and all that other business stuff? I mean, I guess
I do vendor my JS, but only for things like PDF processing, 3D graphics, and barcode scanning.
I've been through the framework gauntlet. Angular, RiotJS, React, Blazor, AspNetCore MVC, you name it. There was a time where I really needed some kind of structure to get conceptually bootstrapped. After a while, these things begin to get in the way. Why can't I have the framework exactly my way? Just give me the goddamn HttpContext and get off my lawn. I don't need a babysitter to explain to me how to interpolate my business into an html document string anymore.
I also now understand why a lot of shops insist on separation between frontend and backend. It seems to me that you have to be willing to dedicate much of your conscious existence to honing your skills if you want to be a competent full stack developer. It can't just be your 9-5 job unless you are already highly experienced and have a set of proven patterns to work with. Getting someone off the street to that level can be incredibly expensive and risky. Once you know how to do the whole thing, you could just quit and build for yourself.