I checked sources, turns out literally tens of millions of people vocally and loudly disagree with you.
I think it's not helpful to anyone to come in here and be so resolute and so black and white. Especially in the face of an event that has drawn the eye of the international community as a potential genocide.
I'm not telling you what to believe, just that like, posting like you did is not engaging in any meaningful discussion.
I think the parent is referring to the situation before Oct 7th and likely going back to Israel's withdrawal in 2005. The detail I think he's trying to put forward is that before Israel's withdrawal the settlers in Gaza operated a flower export business of about that economic magnitude and that the greenhouses and infrastructure that was used for that business was left after Israel withdrew. There is some discussion of this here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gush_Katif#Economy
We're talking about the history of the conflict which I think is important. The Israeli disengagement from Gaza in 2005 is part of how we got here so I think it's important for people following the conflict to know the details and not just respond emotionally to the terrible images of war- which I agree are disturbing.
Please do mention about the complete sea, air, and land blockade of Gaza, when you do that. You can mention the raid on Gaza freedom flotilla as well.
While Israel supposedly disengaged from Gaza, it had conducted similar attacks with hundreds of human casualties under the pretense of operational readiness, training, and the notorious mowing the lawn operations.
Of course some of them were so called retribution and responses, which mostly begins by rockets on Israel soil, but not by the brutal oppression it administers to Gazans.
Not OP. Sometimes it's good to have a lack of nuance and come with absolute black/white thoughts. At some point, we all internally, draw our own lines in the sand about how we think on a topic (that is hopefully until we encounter new information that necessitates a change). I know for a fact that my opinion on this topic is not accepted, likely won't be accepted by either prominent side, but I stick with it because it conforms to my internal thoughts, priorities and problem-solving properties.
> it's truly surreal to hear people say this with their entire chest when the mountains of first-hand evidence proves otherwise.
Evidence from the post you are replying to, but did not address:
>> Gaza is not under threat from Israel, who pulled out in 2005, and gave Gazans a 250-300M flower export business. You can confirm this from any source you like.
Additionally, there should be no need to state that Hamas (which is widely supported in Gaza) attacked Israel and started this current war. Ie, Israel is under threat from Gaza.
The death ratio of civilian to combatant casualties from this war is 1:1 which is the lowest in any recent war, much to the credit of the IDF.
To entertain genocide conspiracy theories, those numbers, as well as Gaza population growth, would have to be very different for one thing.
Glad someone said it. Hamas is not a terrorist because they terrorize. Hamas is a terrorist because they are a threat to western govt and world order. Similarly south africa post apartheid was a threat to western world order.
