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>Utility and value might be defined by self referencing each other but that's true for many other concepts or words in a language for that matter

Precisely. Like when a priest says that "love" is "god" and "god" is "love".

Plenty of our language is deeply unscientific.



It's not like that at all. If you want to argue that one can't define value then I am out. If you admit "value" has well understood meaning then utility function of wealth is just how much value one can derive from it. We usually measure wealth in money for convenience. I really don't know why you are so against it. There might be a lot of nonsense associate with it but the concept itself is pretty simple and useful.




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