Those are two examples I thought I'd give rather than linkbombing.
Yes, I chose the lyrics to Blackbird because they are short, it generates in 2:00 chunks, and they don't have obvious meter. It's not like a limerick or something. I wanted to test the musical capabilities, I wasn't interested in generating lyrics, though that can obviously be done.
As someone who has studied and played music professionally my whole life, this isn't paint by number, at least in the way you think it is.
Most music is very similar. You can write 90% of most popular music using the 6 diatonic trichords, and 80% probably with only 4. There are also only so many ways to rearrange those.
This is not using a book of chord changes or melodies. I can promise you that after listening to 100s of versions of Blackbird, Yesterday, and the ABCs, I do not see the sort of pull the changes from a database that you're implying. In fact, I'd wager I could probably find a dozen songs that use the exact same chord changes and you wouldn't even have realized prior. I know because it's a great wedding gig trick, and we'd do it all the time.
I don't know what changes you think were carbon copied in the first link. It shows really good songwriting skills. Use of tension and surprise. "It sounds like everything else in that genre." Yes, that's what a genre is.
It also shows skill at vocal phrasing. This is really difficult and makes or breaks any song you try to write.
Explaining how difficult it is to write good melodies while putting a hard syllabic constraint on it is beyond the scope here. It's not easy or obvious and usually sounds like shit. Like, try to sing Sweet Home Alabama along with the chord changes at the end of "Layla". After doing essentially that for years (that's exactly what songwriting is) I doubt I could do it and not have it sound idiotic. This thing can do that.
If you're thinking "Oh that just sounds like the Brandenburg Concertos" YEAH. THAT'S MY POINT. This level of mimicry is brand new. I've never seen anything close to doing anything like this. If you have, I'm all ears.
Now since you think originality is important, here is a poem I wrote for a girl I dated that worked at a coffee shop. Never intended it to be a song, but I love it.
When I showed all this stuff to my musician friends this weekend (some who contract with Disney, Netflix, write scores, actively touring, etc), the reactions were actual tears, complete disbelief, shock, and existential dread.
$1000 says there's no way you could tell me whether this is a Chopin original or not played amongst others, and that's my point. And if you say "While sure, but that's not really that impressive because computers", frankly, you don't know what you're talking about and have already made your mind up.
It's certainly capable of creating technically impressive music, and mimicry at a ridiculously competent level, but it absolutely will not replace the desire for recording artists. These tools will become part of an artist's arsenal, but they will not replace the artist any more than the countless digital composition tools that already exist have. It will just be the case that these tools enable more people to be artists than previously before. Music is a form of artistic expression. As long as people still care about what other people have to say, there will be a demand for recording artists.
I think Spotify will start to fade away to personalized music, or adapt to it and become a search engine of generated music.
My mom likes the Kansas, Chicago, early Genesis, ELO, and Rush. She's babysitting her granddaughter. I made this for her tonight in the last two hours, splicing and nudging the prompt.
That makes no sense. People don't care that much about how good music or songs are. If not, why do you think the songs on the best playlists keep changing? What matters is being able to maintain the same knowledge and talk about that music or song with someone. So AI-generated music can have no value. In music, narrative isn't something supplementary. People want narratives and music is the medium for that. (But outside of Spotify, maybe this won't be the case. People aren't interested in the narrative of such music as background music or OSTs.)
Yes, I chose the lyrics to Blackbird because they are short, it generates in 2:00 chunks, and they don't have obvious meter. It's not like a limerick or something. I wanted to test the musical capabilities, I wasn't interested in generating lyrics, though that can obviously be done.
As someone who has studied and played music professionally my whole life, this isn't paint by number, at least in the way you think it is.
Most music is very similar. You can write 90% of most popular music using the 6 diatonic trichords, and 80% probably with only 4. There are also only so many ways to rearrange those.
This is not using a book of chord changes or melodies. I can promise you that after listening to 100s of versions of Blackbird, Yesterday, and the ABCs, I do not see the sort of pull the changes from a database that you're implying. In fact, I'd wager I could probably find a dozen songs that use the exact same chord changes and you wouldn't even have realized prior. I know because it's a great wedding gig trick, and we'd do it all the time.
I don't know what changes you think were carbon copied in the first link. It shows really good songwriting skills. Use of tension and surprise. "It sounds like everything else in that genre." Yes, that's what a genre is.
It also shows skill at vocal phrasing. This is really difficult and makes or breaks any song you try to write.
Explaining how difficult it is to write good melodies while putting a hard syllabic constraint on it is beyond the scope here. It's not easy or obvious and usually sounds like shit. Like, try to sing Sweet Home Alabama along with the chord changes at the end of "Layla". After doing essentially that for years (that's exactly what songwriting is) I doubt I could do it and not have it sound idiotic. This thing can do that.
Here's an example of it mimicking Russian to English phrasing: https://app.suno.ai/song/0d2d817f-4bf3-4837-85ab-9ff13abe9b4...
David Bowi-ish phrasing: https://app.suno.ai/song/a6b9e419-2e0f-4208-b66e-929b2076d96...
West Coast Hip-Hop banger alert if you're over 35 https://app.suno.ai/song/82e05d5b-7e0f-4715-8ed4-5f3d22fb81d...
Acid Funk https://app.suno.ai/song/de174b94-1758-4fae-b497-93b79f384a2...
Like I said, I have about 100 of these. This shit is nuts.
Here's some ABC's
Bossa Nova https://app.suno.ai/song/0fe61c85-62be-4327-9f05-5b0865353a6...
90's Grunge https://app.suno.ai/song/321a48e1-611b-4ec6-af0e-6e88815621c...
Baroque https://app.suno.ai/song/68257dae-031f-4910-a013-9bc0281cee2...
If you're thinking "Oh that just sounds like the Brandenburg Concertos" YEAH. THAT'S MY POINT. This level of mimicry is brand new. I've never seen anything close to doing anything like this. If you have, I'm all ears.
Now since you think originality is important, here is a poem I wrote for a girl I dated that worked at a coffee shop. Never intended it to be a song, but I love it.
https://app.suno.ai/song/9346c871-5e7f-439a-9134-d876aca7086...
https://app.suno.ai/song/2be696db-3b3b-48df-9075-66d3388cc11...
When I showed all this stuff to my musician friends this weekend (some who contract with Disney, Netflix, write scores, actively touring, etc), the reactions were actual tears, complete disbelief, shock, and existential dread.
$1000 says there's no way you could tell me whether this is a Chopin original or not played amongst others, and that's my point. And if you say "While sure, but that's not really that impressive because computers", frankly, you don't know what you're talking about and have already made your mind up.
https://app.suno.ai/song/bab48740-b977-4ee3-bdb8-0bc85995047...