I see that my post was down voted because it was written by an LLM in a verbose and pretentious style. That's okay but the idea I expressed are my own, the LLM did only the wording.

I regret also that the discussion derailed to discuss about LLM generated contents. I will be more careful the next time.

curious how were you able to tell? as a non-native speaker, I too use LLM to improve my wordings/clarity but modify it to maintain my rough style

It's the writing style. Humans simply don't write like that, unless they are writing a research paper.

Even as a non-native speaker it really stood out: "This situation is exacerbated by the fact that", "In contrast", "Given the outlined".

I would call this style something like fluid enumeration of facts, typical for GPT generated texts.

It's too verbose and vauge, the information density is terrible. The only people I've seen who writes like that are those who need to reach a certain number of words while saying as little as possible.

A hacker news comment isn't a research paper. I scrolled past it after starting because of the AI tells. Organic communication will be hard soon.

When I listen to speech synthesis systems from the 80s, like the one from Stephen Hawking, I feel they are easy to understand but "robotic", they sound all the same in a "robotic" sense.

LLMs seem to suffer from that as well. The length of the answers has lower variance than the length from humans. The number of paragraphs, the length of each paragraph, the structure of the paragraphs... All that is kind of predictable, so when I read a text that does not have that structure I usually don't think it's written by an LLM. However if the text has that structure then I can suspect it may come from an LLM. I believe in some months we will all be used to the LLM style and we will get much better to identify it... And then chatbots will probably be changed to sound less robotic...

It's actually very easy to convince an LLM to output perfectly natural text, it's just that their default mode is that verbose corporate boilerplate speak.

You can request responses in some specific style by the name of a popular author, or just provide a bunch of examples for it to copy.

I like responses in the style of an "Encyclopaedia Dramatica article", which tends to be both hilarious and also a bit less guarded and hence more honest.

For me "eschewing unnecessary complexity" stands out as a phrase that I've heard in the context of joking (as it is itself an unnecessarily complex wording) but which didn't fit well here as it didn't seem any joking was intended.

it’s poorly written - overly discursive. stuff like “the fact that” which are filler phrases

I like your words more. Rough English is fine and adds a human touch. ChatGPT just makes me wonder if some shill is bot posting on HN.

Besides, as a native speaker, ChatGPT reads to me like a 13 year old desperately trying to sound like an adult.

The "Turing13 Test".

In some ways it is better, but mostly it comes across like a bot. Which makes me not trust the words. And in that way it is a net loss.

Your english is good enough. Keep writing the comments yourself!