Yes, this is what happens in Singapore. There is a requirement to post job vacan...

EdwardDiego · 2024-03-20T03:40:12 1710906012

NZ also. Used to work in social security, posting jobs with us used to be sufficient to say "we tried to hire locally, but no dice".

So we'd get positions like "Chef for Asian restaurant, must known how to cook food Sichuan style and must be fluent in Mandarin and Cantonese, $10ph"

(At the time, minimum wage was $9ph)

You weren't getting a chef for $10 ph, you're not even getting a cook.

And definitely no-one who is fluent in your desired languages.

Ditto the golf coach required, some golf certification required, fluent in Japanese and Mandarin, $10 p/h.

downrightmike · 2024-03-20T01:28:12 1710898092

The government should treat these are trash and send out fines.

NovemberWhiskey · 2024-03-20T01:37:11 1710898631

The government in the U.S. literally requires these "non-jobs" to be advertised.

jazzyjackson · 2024-03-20T01:43:33 1710899013

i expect the spirit of the law is to actually try and hire a local, but the letter falls short and merely requires the advertising

lesuorac · 2024-03-20T02:00:58 1710900058

I would say the law will catch up but it's probably just part of cost of reveune.

But the USG will eventually sue you if you're making job ads that you don't want to actually be filled for the purpose of h1b / green cards.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-secures-25...

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-labor-departments-rea...

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fact-sheets/62s-h1b-willful...

NovemberWhiskey · 2024-03-20T13:24:48 1710941088

No; it's really just about proving that there's no-one who's qualified.

01HNNWZ0MV43FF · 2024-03-20T13:54:18 1710942858

Nobody is qualified because the ad is written around a candidate they've already verbally hired.

It's a stupid song and dance. If people really want to be isolationist, they should crack down on it. If we really want freedom, drop the requirement. Until then it's just insulting to see a job posting that I know is for the brother of the guy who already works here, who is already promised the job.